China is the luminous elephant floating in the kitchen at COP27: the developing nation that builds space stations

By Jo Nova

China emits more CO2 than first world combined, but tells the West to “do more” as it quietly sprints into the Space Race

China, dragon flag.

China signed the Paris Agreement, which meant nothing at all. It is now building 60% of all the new coal plants in the world while the West does a kind of Tantric Energy Yoga —  trying to run smelters with solar panels.

China’s emissions of CO2 exceed all developed nations combined, yet President Xi is not even attending COP27, and almost no one cares.

This is the luminous elephant floating in the kitchen at COP27:

If CO2 mattered, they would care. But the point of COP27 was never about the climate.

China's emissions global, compared to US, India, Russia, EU. Graph.

China absurdly mocks the moral carbon-beauty-contest of the west, while applauding us, and playing by its own rules

From the sidelines, the CCP berates and eggs on the West saying that “empty slogans are not ambition” and calling for the “UN climate summit to address the concerns of developing nations.”

Li Gao, director of the Ministry of Ecology and Environment’s climate change department… urged developed nations to meet their commitments on the US$100 billion per year and called for rich countries to develop a more ambitious road map for climate finance for 2021-25 and onwards.    — South China Morning Post

Meanwhile today China-the-developing-nation is celebrating the docking of their third space module. Nothing says “advanced” quite like building your own space station. Nothing says “dangerous” quite like working on the far side of the moon, where no one can see you, which is another project for the China National Space Administration.


As Dr Malcolm Davis says the Chinese program is heavily integrated with the PLA. It’s a military “dual purpose” operation.

There’s a shadow war in Space “every day”. China is actively testing the US defences in space on a daily basis, harassing them with lasers, radio jammers, cyber attacks and even other satellites with robotic grappling hook arms.

Meanwhile it’s almost like there is a shadow economic and industrial war too, and one of the weapons is “carbon”.

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103 comments to China is the luminous elephant floating in the kitchen at COP27: the developing nation that builds space stations

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    erasmus

    How many times do we have to point these facts out to our idiot politicians before they stop the rot and get back to looking after our interests instead of adding to the disintegration of our formerly cohesive and successful nation?
    They have been bluffed, or worse, are complicit in the left’s master plan to reshape or reset things.

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      DD

      Facts don’t matter. To the Left it is a matter of what they are AGAINST rather than what they are FOR, and the ‘other Left’ are both too scared and too self-serving to do something about it.

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      Skeptocynic

      You got it, the sleepers need to open their eyes and shake off the dream so we can…

      get back to looking after our interests

      That’s the lie we’re fed, “our” public servants serve the public.
      Alas they serve another master, outside our shores, towards their global goal

      They… are complicit in the left’s master plan

      which entails

      the disintegration of our formerly cohesive and successful nation

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      crakar24

      As soon as you realise your government does not care whether you live or die the sooner your governments actions make sense

      Anon….

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      Peter Charles

      Since this has been ongoing for forty years and it has been plain for the last thirty that the AGW hypothesis was absolutely discredited common sense should tell us that our idiot politicians are in fact seeking the destruction of our formerly cohesive and successful nations. Since they almost without exception work for the globalist/neocon faction based on what they do (and not just as regards climate) and are clearly seeking to impose some bizarre Neo-fuedalism on us common folk they are clearly NOT working in our interests.

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    Lawrie

    Either our so called leaders are completely stupid or they are part of the programme to destroy the West. I can accept that Bowen is brain dead but Howard, Turnbull and Morrison were all on board the coal-has-to-go bus along with the usual criminals, Klaus Schwarb and Soros and the useful idiots at the EU and UN, and they must have been aware that while we were crippling our economy China was streaking ahead. They must have known that wind and solar were next to useless or why would we still be subsidising an “emerging” technology 30 years on. Emerging? Farmers dumped windmills for Briggs and Stratton and Villiers as soon as they became available back in the sixties. The Dutch stopped using wind to pump water when motors could do it instead. Who can we trust to work in our interests rather than the WEF graduates and Chinaphiles that populate the political parties? Just as the new Republicans are about to take the Congress in the US we will have to have a major realignment of conservative politicians and the dumping of the white ants like Matt Kean.

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      John in Oz

      Either our so called leaders are completely stupid or they are part of the programme to destroy the West.

      Don’t discount the idea that they could be both

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      Lion heart

      The 2020 US election has overhelming indisputable evidence it was stolen.
      Canvasing has proved just how dishonest the process was.
      Even our media say there was no good evidence.
      2000 mules is the tip of the iceberg. Currupt machines are still online.
      This is the real war.
      There was a red wave in 2020. The DOJ, FBI, most MSM and many others complied to cover the blatant fraud.
      Don’t count on an honest democratically elected result next week.

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        Lionheart
        A friend of mine keeps saying the Mid terms will be the beginning of the end of Biden. But as you point out, and I continually point out to him, the corrupt are still in charge and will again resort to whatever means possible to ensure that Biden remains.

        Oh there may be the odd Republican elected here and there, but the process will ensure that the Democrats have an iron grip on the US.

        Here its just as bad except we have a dictatorship of the bureaucrats hidden in the shadows with our politicians regardless of party just following their advice. Covid showed how incompetent or corrupt Prof Kelly, our CHOs and so many were, claiming to follow non existent advice, and forcing dangerous treatments on all and sundry without regard to risk. The govt changes but the same dead hand of the Left installed in the bureaucracy ensures we continue our trend downwards to destruction.

        The system in each case is the problem. Until the systems are changed we will see no change.

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    Archie

    This is good lecture of green-house gases.
    Every policy maker should really be aware of these issues and stop demonising carbon dioxide.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqWv26PXqz0

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      b.nice

      A video that should be force-fed to all AGW proponents and echo-lites. 🙂

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      MichaelinBrisbane

      Indeed, this is a great explanation of the trivial effect that increases in CO2 and CH4 (and other gases) have on global warming. Thanks for the link, Archie.
      Next one needs to look at “our” trivial “anthropogenic” component. For CO2 it is already acknowledged that it is less than 4% (and Australia’s fraction of that is less than 2%). For CH4, what about all the other contributors before blaming our milk and beef supply — even the forests that some want to rely upon to absorb all “our” CO2 are themselves a great source of CH4.

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        Ross

        You know what Michael, I reckon Australia’s CO2 contribution may now have dipped below 1%. When I first started following the whole CC/CO2 saga 20 years ago Australia was at 1.7% of total anthropogenic emissions. It’s not good optics for anyone in government to reveal a figure less than 1% because it looks even more trivial when quoted. Not that our emissions make any difference anyway, our biosphere sucks up more than we produce.

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      RightOverLabour

      Brilliant video. I am familiar with Happers work, but that video explains it exceptionally well.

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    OldOzzie

    Meanwhile Excellent Article by Alan Moran – 1 November 2022

    A review and commentary on topical matters concerning the science, economics, and governance associated with climate change developments.

    Climate change politics

    European industry is being forced to downsize due to energy shortages. Fertilizer production was down 35 per cent in August and textiles, auto and other industries are reducing output. Nations are going further into debt to pay for energy, giving rise to concerns over a debt crisis. The UK government, whose debt accounted for 143% of its GDP last year, has paid the equivalent of 178 billion Euros (about 6 per cent of GDP). This includes capping electricity bills at £2,500 at a cost of £60bn which will end in April – meaning bills will rise to £4000-5000. France, whose debt stood at 145% of its GDP last year, has earmarked 71 billion euros, and Germany, whose debt is 77% of its GDP, has approved 300 billion euros.

    With the COP 27 climate conference taking place in Egypt, the EU is fast-tracking a law to ban sales of new fossil fuel cars in the EU by 2035, expand Europe’s natural CO2-absorbing “sinks” like forests, and set binding national emissions-cutting goals.

    Germany’s Greens economy minister Robert Habeck is to slow the increase of power bills next year by paying just under 13 billion euros towards transmission costs. Defending his government, and standing by his Green values he also said, “Nuclear power and fossil fuels brought us here. They caused this crisis; they are not the solution.” But Chancellor Olaf Scholz has prolonged the life of all three of Germany’s remaining nuclear reactors until April 2023. The Chancellor has also pledged support for reconstructing Ukraine’s energy sector, which “must gradually be re-installed in a climate neutral way.”

    Germany plans skim off windfall revenues of energy businesses including photovoltaic (PV) suppliers, who claim that this could lead to a market collapse and prevent 2030’s 80 per cent renewable target from being met.

    Twelve of the top 20 German businesses have set net-zero greenhouse gas emission targets, but few have specified long-term plans to reach them, according to climate consultancy EcoAct.

    Two of Germany’s largest steel plants have been shut down, according to CEO of ArcelorMittal, due to “a tenfold increase in gas and electricity prices”.

    The Dutch government is to forcefully buy 600 farms and retire them from food production to solve the “nitrogen crisis”

    But Energy companies looking to take advantage of the Bank of England’s latest support package for firms facing difficulties due to the Ukraine war must disclose whether they have a net zero transition plan and, if so, deliver it to the Treasury within six months of drawdown of funds, or before termination of the guarantee. Britain’s largest bank, Lloyds, has said it will no longer lend for coal, gas and oil.

    Rishi Sunak is prevaricating on whether to attend the Climate Conference in Cairo, which Biden, Scholz and Macron are attending (as well as Boris Johnson, though King Charles has been told not to attend). Some UK Tory MPs are joining with Greenpeace in opposing plans to start fracking for gas and Sunak will re-impose a ban on fracking, which the Global Warming Policy Foundation says would be a national act of self-harm on the largest scale!

    Chairman Xi, in voicing a reality rare among international statesmen, announced that China won’t stop burning fossil fuels until it’s confident that clean energy can reliably replace them. China, the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, claims it will reach carbon neutrality by 2060 with emissions peaking by 2030.

    Having demonised gas and oil, including terminating work on pipelines and taking many fracking sites off limits, the Biden administration, facing a shortage, is pleading with Saudi Arabia and other suppliers to lift output – so far without success. Biden is also continuing to release some of the petroleum strategic reserve to suppress prices ahead of the November mid-terms.

    The US Department of Labor plans to add lithium-ion batteries to a list of products whose components are known to be made using child or forced labor. This would mean no electric vehicle assembled in the U.S. would fully qualify for the $7,500 per unit subsidy contained in the paradoxically named Inflation Reduction Act.

    Australia introduced legislation for a “safeguard mechanism”, a form of tax under which the top 200 facilities emitting over 100,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent per year (half of total emissions) will be required to pare down their emissions or buy emission reductions from other firms. As a result, prices in Australia’s $4.5bn carbon credit market could more than triple over the next decade according to RepuTex, the consultancy that modelled Labor’s 2030 pledge to cut emissions by 43 per cent. These costs will be passed onto consumers.

    Australian Commonwealth and state governments’ policies seek the closure of coal generators. By 2035, Victoria intends to shut down its three remaining coal generators, which were privatised 25 years ago. With 4660 MW capacity, these supply two thirds of the state’s electricity. According to the Energy Minister, “We know that if we simply left it to the market to make decisions …. all we’re going to find is that electricity prices will just jump up, and we’ll fail to capture the job benefits, and the emissions reduction targets.”

    Petteri Taalas, secretary-general of the World Meteorological Organization made the macabre comment that the war in Ukraine “may be seen as a blessing” from a climate perspective because it is accelerating the development of and investment in green energies over the longer term. Others have made the same point less bluntly. But one trend going counter to this is the EU’s plans to reduce its 45 per cent renewables target to 40 per cent.

    – Climate change economics
    – Developments in climate science
    – Whimsey
    – Articles related to climate change – October 2022

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      Neville

      Thanks OldOzzie for linking to the honest data from the hard working and honest Alan Moran.
      BTW that net zero trojan horse cartoon is a beauty and just a pity that 99% of Aussies will never see it.

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        Geoff Sherrington

        Neville,
        Alan Moran was at Tasman Institute around 1991 when Warwick Hughes brought in some questionable temperature data from Phil Jones. I was a financial sponsor for my employer.
        Later, this led to that email from Jones “Why should I send you my data when you want to find problems with it” (approx quote).
        So Alan Moran has had involvement in global warming stuff for a long time. Geoff S

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        David Maddison

        Wonderful news.

        I would also like to see other wind subsidy farms dismantled so, for those where forests were cut down to make way for bird killers, forests can be regrown.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      Morning OO,
      The article you’ve provided above includes this statement which seems to appear quite often in various articles:
      ” China, the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, claims it will reach carbon neutrality by 2060 with emissions peaking by 2030. ”

      But I thought their original words were more along the lines of China:
      “would continue on its current course until 2030, when it would review its situation”, which they have done at about one new coal-fired power plant per week.

      Unfortunately I didn’t keep a copy, or even a reference. Is my memory correct?

      Cheers
      Dave B

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    David Maddison

    None of this is about the beneficial trace gas carbon dioxide (what the ignorant left, a tautology, I know, call “carbon” (sic)).

    The false claim of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming is being maliciously used to bring about the destruction of Western Civilisation.

    Anybody who knows anything about China, or who has ever been there, knows it’s not a Third World country. Many of its cities are far more modern than you would find in America, Europe or Australia. Plus it is nuclear power, it has nuclear power reactors and weapons, is a space power and has even landed on the moon. (What does that make Australia?)

    It is impossible to not know these things, therefore the people exempting China from the same rules as apply to the West have a plan to destroy the West and and advance the supremacy of China.

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      Neville

      David I must agree with your comment, because even lefty loonies can’t really believe the sort of idiocy that we always hear from the pollies, MSM, so called scientists etc and on a daily basis.
      Now even their ABC has admitted that the 2022 Melbourne Cup was the coldest since 1913.
      I know it’s only weather but it’s more difficult to understand that temp reduction in 2022 because of all that infrastructure surrounding the race track today compared to the city 109 years ago.

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    David Maddison

    Australia should claim Third World status so we can build some proper coal, gas and nuclear power stations and get this country back to work.

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      Neville

      David I fear that third world status will become very obvious if we don’t get rid of Labor/Greens/Teals at the next election.
      Of course the Coalition will also have to wake up now and take up the fight to these delusional fanatics ASAP.
      Alas that’s a very big ask.

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        OldOzzie

        Of course the Coalition will also have to wake up now and take up the fight to these delusional fanatics ASAP.

        Alas that’s a very big ask.

        WA Liberal leader David Honey described the coal shortage in WA as an “unacceptable state of affairs” and accused the McGowan Government of “failing to provide electricity security for this state”.

        He said the decision to phase out the use of coal by 2030 – five years later than his own party proposed at the last election – had created “uncertainty” for Collie’s two mines.

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        John Connor II

        Gerard Rennick for PM?

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          wokebuster

          I would prefer Senator Antic. I think he can develop into Australia’s DeSantis. Rennick is probably too nerdy to appeal to women

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      Geoff Sherrington

      David M,
      In 1993 I made 5 private trips to west China to see if they wanted to make joint ventures with prominent Australian mining companies. The Chinese mining chiefs were most cordial and open with their data, but even way back then they knew they could succeed without foreign help.
      I inspected some very good in-ground resources like the tin deposits at Gejiu that were superior to any we had found. Their refining methods back then looked primitive, but they knew their metallurgy and got the job done.
      Now, they are streets ahead of Australia in development policies for the future.
      Sticking my neck out here, I am now pointing the finger at poor work by Australian policy makers who have been influenced by (or who are) depressed individuals who take it out on normal people who are sexually attractive in the old-fashioned way, not like these many disaffected whingers like some queers and harpies that remind me of depictions of harpies knitting around the guillotines of the French revolution screeching “Off with their heads”.
      Teals come to mind.
      China is free of Teal type impediments. China is winning. Geoff S

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    OldOzzie

    Meanwhile in the Idiocy that is Australia

    Synergy confirms first-ever import of coal with shipment from NSW’s Hunter Valley expected by end of summer

    An unprecedented coal shortage will force Synergy to ship in the fuel from NSW’s Hunter Valley — but the state-owned utility insists it has enough on hand to maintain generation over summer.

    Premier Mark McGowan on Tuesday revealed it was “likely” Synergy would resort to importing coal “this year” as a result of production issues at the embattled Premier Coal mine.

    A Synergy spokeswoman later confirmed the utility was “exploring an option to secure coal from interstate to insure against any unforeseen interruptions in future coal supply”.

    The West understands the coal is being sourced from a mine located in the Hunter Valley of NSW and could arrive as soon as next month.

    It is the first time Synergy has been forced to look outside WA for coal, which has traditionally all come from Collie.

    “There’s been issues with the companies in Collie providing the coal to the system due to rain and some of the overlay on the coal fields and some of the equipment failures they have suffered from,” Mr McGowan said on Tuesday.

    “So it is likely (Synergy) will have to (import coal) this year.”

    In June, the McGowan Government announced the phased retirement of all state-owned coal-fired power stations by 2030.

    The decision had significant implications for both Premier Coal — which is owned by Chinese outfit Yancoal and is Synergy’s sole supplier — and fellow Collie-based miner Griffin Coal, which supplies the privately-operated Bluewaters Power Station.

    Both mines have struggled financially in recent years, with Griffin appointing receivers in September.

    In September, AEMO approved the three-month withdrawal from the SWIS of the 300MW Collie Power Station as a result of coal shortages.

    WA Liberal leader David Honey described the coal shortage in WA as an “unacceptable state of affairs” and accused the McGowan Government of “failing to provide electricity security for this state”.

    He said the decision to phase out the use of coal by 2030 – five years later than his own party proposed at the last election – had created “uncertainty” for Collie’s two mines.

    “There are around 2 billion tons of coal reserves in Collie and we’re going to be exporting coal mining jobs to the eastern states,” Mr Honey said.

    “This is ridiculous and this is a complete failure of government that sits at their feet.”

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      Ross

      What, only a lazy 2 billion tonnes? That would have to be 100’s years supply for WA. (200 at least)

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      RightOverLabour

      In New Zealand, the twat in charge has curtailed coal mining, so we import low grade shit from Indonesia. But the twat in charge can go on the global stage and say we mine less coal.

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    Serge Wright

    Yes, it was never about CO2. The main prize has always been global dominance and the west capitulated without a shot being fired by handing over its manufacturing sector to China. However, we can’t ignore the UN’s role in this plan as they helped push the UNFCC BACK IN 1992, which was the tool that propagated the myth of dangerous climate change and carbon morality, where they convinced the western leaders that CO2 emissions needed to be measured historically and on a per capita basis. The result was a doubling of global emissions over the next 30 years, mainly from China, as the west de-industrialised, shifting industry offshore to meet CO2 reduction targets and helped fuel the rapid development in developing countries that had mega population centres, unleashing massive volumes of CO2 in the process. Despite this obvious CO2 outcome, the UN never flinched in all of those years and even now as China has arguably ascended to become the most developed nation on the planet, it’s still classified as “developing” and it still has a free pass on emissions as it surges ahead on its FF binge to total global dominance. Whilst this plan might have seemed obvious to many people in the west, the main stream media and big tech sided with their future masters in China and made sure the job was done by pushing the false narratives or CC and RE and silencing dissenting voices along the way.

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      David Maddison

      Very well said, Serge.

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      Geoff Sherrington

      Serge,
      Back in 1992, my mining company functions had switched from use of good science to find and develop more mines, to silly social stuff like fighting to keep Australian land open for future exploration and development. I was pretty much in the thick of Australian policy at the time.
      We were fighting the effects of International treaties and major domestic law changes, like the 1992 Mabo report. Internationalist politicians like extreme socialist Gareth Evans were quietly creating Treaties by the hundreds without due regard to the many unintended consequences. For example, there were the United Nations World Heritage treaties and agreements that needed new Australian laws. In 1985-6 I took the then Fed minister for Environment, Barry Cohen, all the way through our court system to prevent sterilisation of the uranium potential east of Darwin, but the Full Bench of the High Court finally gave up because it was too complicated and we lost. Some of the area became a military training region instead, a cunning plan to keep the ordinary people out. Then we lost access to a region south of Rockhampton, to explore for beach sands. It became WH and a new military training area. The ditto for a region around Lockhart River way up in Cape York, also for beach sands. Beach sands produce much-needed metals like titanium for advanced uses like in satellites and high speed aircraft.
      Mixed in with all of this was aboriginal affairs. For 6 years I was President or VP of the NT Chamber of Mines, whose biggest agenda item by far was ab affairs. I also did national Aust Mining Industry AMIC work at member level, plus WA Chamber work at committee level, similar problems.
      I mention these matters to show what the collective minds were dealing with from our resources side of the action around the 1990s. There was next to no activity on global warming or on what CO2 was going to do to the air. Sure, we all read and had minor discussions about this, but the later action seemed to start with the 1987 Gro Harlem Bundtland report “Our Common Future” that led to a showing of the teeth at the 1992 Rio gabfest. This was the environmental dribble that became the flood over the decades after 1987. It was the first formal notification that international politics declared war under the banner of cuddly environment protection.
      It was apparent right from the start that good science did not support the manic existential crisis theme that soon developed. Global cooling was often mentioned in those times, not global warming. CO2, Carbon Dioxide, became “carbon” and assumed properties that Superman feared from Kryptonite. Huge advertising effort took comic book science to settled science by exploiting the masses, most of whom know little science or medicine and were happy to follow what the experts endorsed. You know the rest.
      Geoff S

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        Serge Wright

        Cheers Geoff, That’s an interesting insight into the past and it shows how politics and vested interests have slowly become the main criteria for decision making over the years. The educational institutions, such as the one that you managed, now focus on providing information that is “politically correct” to maximise funding and to “support the cause”. For example, in the past we would have a pile of papers written as to why you can’t power a modern economy with wind and solar, which would be obvious to most people, and yet such a paper would be regarded as forbidden territory today. And then we have the dumbing down of the system with gender and race equity ideology, which is running in overdrive in the US.

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    Neville

    AGAIN here’s the slightly different co2 emissions graph from Wiki, using data from the accepted sources.
    This includes the “other countries’ emissions” trend that started a still fairly steady trend line 25 to 30 years before China’s abrupt higher trend in about 2000.
    AGAIN the USA + EU combined co2 emissions haven’t increased since 1970.
    So how much longer will these political donkeys follow this lunacy?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions#/media/File:World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_six_top_countries_and_confederations.png

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      David Maddison

      Sadly, I doubt whether anyone on the Left, the MSM, politics, UN, WEF etc. would understand that graph.

      Not that they want to.

      It’s not about CO2.

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    John Connor II

    Greta Thunberg Calls For “Overthrow Of Whole Capitalist System”

    Thunberg made the extremist comments during an appearance on Sunday night at London’s Royal Festival Hall to promote her new ‘Climate Book’.

    Nicholas Harris from UnHerd was there to watch Thunberg outline her demented manifesto.

    Previously, she’d sold herself as a five-foot human alarm bell, a climate Cassandra. Her role was to warn, not to instruct: her most viral moments involved her scolding political leaders, not trying to supplant them. She strenuously avoided programmatic detail, saying such things were “nothing to do with me”. But now, on stage and in this book, she has found her political feet, specifically the Left-wing ideology of anti-capitalism and de-growth.

    Interspersed among the usual directives about the need to pressure political leaders, her message was more radical and more militant than it has been in the past. There is no “back to normal”, she told us. “Normal” was the “system” which gave us the climate crisis, a system of “colonialism, imperialism, oppression, genocide”, of “racist, oppressive extractionism”. Climate justice is part of all justice; you can’t have one without the others. We can’t trust the elites produced by this system to confront its flaws – that’s why she, much like Rishi Sunak, won’t be bothering with the COP meeting this year. COP itself is little more than a “scam” which facilitates “greenwashing, lying and cheating”. Only overthrow of “the whole capitalist system” will suffice.

    So now we are finally seeing the contours of Thunbergism. Run your eye down the contributors to The Climate Book and you can see who she’s been reading: Jason Hickel, Kate Raworth, Naomi Klein. For these people the climate crisis isn’t man-made. It’s made by capitalism, as are the other forms of social injustice which plague society.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/greta-thunberg-calls-overthrow-whole-capitalist-system

    Good old “super idiot” Greta gaffes again.
    Can’t wait for old Elon to start fact checking her tweets…

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      Graham Richards

      At least Greta is honest about her ambitions to destroy capitalism! The world’s politicians have the same ambitions but lie about it. They’re scared that democracy will defeat them & MUST keep their electorates in line with their devious immoral lies. The electorate on the other hand have been brainwashed for the last 50 years & can’t see where they’re being led!

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        John Connor II

        How will she sail to the next climate conference if ending capitalism puts yacht builders out of business? 🤣

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          Wind-powered vessel builders, out of business?
          Unlikely?
          How will the peons and concubines be moved to where the Great Ones need them to slave ’til they drop?

          Auto

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      Dennis

      06:43 PM ET 02/10/2015
      Economic Systems: The alarmists keep telling us their concern about global warming is all about man’s stewardship of the environment. But we know that’s not true. A United Nations official has now confirmed this.

      At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.

      “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said.

      Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

      The only economic model in the last 150 years that has ever worked at all is capitalism. The evidence is prima facie: From a feudal order that lasted a thousand years, produced zero growth and kept workdays long and lifespans short, the countries that have embraced free-market capitalism have enjoyed a system in which output has increased 70-fold, work days have been halved and lifespans doubled.

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    OldOzzie

    Fires from exploding e-bike batteries multiply in NYC — sometimes fatally

    NEW YORK — Four times a week on average, an e-bike or e-scooter battery catches fire in New York City. Sometimes, it does so on the street, but more often, it happens when the owner is recharging the lithium ion battery. A mismatched charger won’t always turn off automatically when the battery’s fully charged, and keeps heating up. Or, the highly flammable electrolyte inside the battery’s cells leaks out of its casing and ignites, setting off a chain reaction. “These bikes when they fail, they fail like a blowtorch,”

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    Neville

    I hope that we see a big kick in the backside for the clueless Biden and the DEMs next week.
    Let’s hope that the Republicans are able to win back control of the House and the Senate on the 8th of NOV, but I’ll believe it when every vote has been counted.
    Just amazing that any person of sound mind would want to vote for these treasonous DEM loonies.

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    DD

    I’m going to need a new pickup soon, and I’m wondering if I should buy one now, before they are banned. But it’s a no-win situation, because the authoritarians will simply tax diesel heavily enough to make it unaffordable to the ‘proletariat’. So, I’ll have to buy an electric pickup, at two or three times the price, that has a range of 200 klms (if I don’t run heating or cooling or carry a load), and needs a new $8,000 battery every eight or so years. So maybe it’ll be back to the horse and buggy days for me, hitching a couple of horses up to the old pickup. What’s the bet that entrepreneurs start setting up clandestine businesses in old coal mines to produce ‘moonshine’ diesel from coal – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_fuel

    Let’s face it, many of the proponents simply haven’t thought this through, while many others simply want to sh-t on us.

    And you’d better get in your holiday in Europe while you still can. Flight numbers are set to be restricted across Europe:
    Schiphol airport in Amsterdam limits flights to prevent emissions.
    France moves to ban short-haul domestic flights.
    Restricted numbers means higher prices, which will lock a lot of us smelly, lower-class people out of air travel. How long before it starts looking like the Soviet Union of old, with resorts being set aside for the exclusive use of ‘party members’?

    And there were moves afoot to exempt private jets from some taxes:
    The EU Proposes To Exempt Private Jets From Fuel Tax

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      John Connor II

      1. Depends what country you’re in.
      2. ICE vehicles will be around for decades.
      3. Save your money for more important things.

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        Sambar

        “ICE vehicles will be around for decades.”

        The absolute classic catch 22. ICE vehicles will be held onto while owners can afford the ever increasing costs of maintenance and tax increases, then when the time comes that they are banned outright peoples investment in them will be worth zero.

        The flip of course is buy the electric vehicle and drive it till it needs new batteries. No one will want a car that needs thousands in new batteries. Peoples investment in them will be worth zero.

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          Dennis

          Don’t ignore trade-in valuation taking into account the condition of an EV battery system, even after a couple of years the charge capacity will be below original capacity and worse if the owner has carried out one hundred per cent recharging often.

          Batteries should be taken into account as a fuel cost.

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      RightOverLabour

      Hybrids are not a bad compromise. I have a Toyota Rav4. Decent fuel consumption and accelerates like a sports car when needed. Even towing does not make a huge dent in consumption. Whether there are any decent hybrid Utes, I don’t know. (And I didn’t buy it to save the planet or reduce CO2 emissions, just looked at the economics of reduced petrol consumption). I burn used car oil on my rural property to offset the CO2 I would have saved on the car.

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    Neville

    BTW Ron Desantis is campaigning in deep blue New York with candidate Zeldin and the crowd was very large.
    This should be an easy win for the Dems but the polls are starting to tighten towards Zeldin.
    We can only hope for a Republican Governor after 8th of Nov.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/desantis-hits-campaign-trail-in-new-york-for-zeldin-biggest-rally-of-the-ny-governors-race-thus-far

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      RickWill

      This prompted me to get some idea of how significant a Republican Governor would be for NY.

      New York may not be as woke as I thought. The State had a Republican Governor as recently as 2006.

      If a republican gets the job, I wonder what will happen to their “renewable” cliff walk.

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    John Connor II

    Not forgetting that BMW pulled out of the UK and is moving operations to ever-so-clean China too. No doubt other manufacturers will follow.
    But bubbling-cauldron-of-rage Greta never mentions the #1 polluter who are also capitalists.

    CO2 emissions in China have risen by 30 percent since 2010. It is not just China, as the rest of the Asia/Pacific region have increased by 24 percent as well. It is a little-known fact that Asia/Pacific emissions excluding China are almost as high as the US and EU combined – 7,211 Mt v 7,429 Mt.
    China’s emissions show no sign of abating, and even went up during the lockdowns of 2020.
    Wind and solar are just 6% of China’s energy.
    The growth in ‘fossil fuel’ consumption since 2010 is four times greater than wind and solar.

    The only thing “green” about China are the painted trees…

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      OldOzzie

      China is the luminous elephant floating in the kitchen at COP27: the developing nation that builds space stations

      Meanwhile as BMW pulled out of the UK and is moving operations to ever-so-clean China too.

      UK Government tests energy blackout emergency plans as supply fears grow

      Exclusive: Whitehall officials have ‘war gamed’ Programme Yarrow, a blueprint for coping with outages for up to a week

      The government has “war gamed” emergency plans to cope with energy blackouts lasting up to seven days in the event of a national power outage amid growing fears over security of supply this winter.

      The Guardian has seen documents, marked “official sensitive”, which warn that in a “reasonable worst-case scenario” all sectors including transport, food and water supply, communications and energy could be “severely disrupted” for up to a week.

      They show that ministers will prioritise getting food, water and shelter to the young and elderly people, as well as those with caring responsibilities, if the country experiences blackouts, with the Met Office warning that Britain faces a higher risk of a cold winter.

      Whitehall officials are currently stress-testing Programme Yarrow, the confidential plan for coping in the event of a power outage, and have held a series of exercises with government departments and councils across the country in recent days.

      The cross-government blueprint was first drawn up in 2021, before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, to improve planning and resilience in the event of a major technical fault on the National Grid. It is unrelated to the energy outlooks published by the National Grid for this winter.

      However, concerns over the impact of a blackout have grown as a result of the war, with government insiders admitting the planning exercises had taken on a new urgency as a result of the resulting energy crisis, which has seen household energy bills spike.

      Ed Miliband, the Labour shadow climate secretary, said: “All governments do contingency planning for worst-case scenarios but the truth is that we are vulnerable as a country as a direct consequence of a decade of failed Conservative energy policy.

      “Banning onshore wind, slashing investment in energy efficiency, stalling nuclear and closing gas storage have led to higher bills and reliance on gas imports, leaving us more exposed to the impact of Putin’s use of energy as a geopolitical weapon.”

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        Ross

        Trouble is the poms are used to blackouts. Maybe not the current generation but the older people will clearly remember the rolling blackouts during Edward Heath’s time as PM. (1970’s) All due to the coal workers strike and before the UK had any decent nuclear power.

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      Dennis

      BMW and others have been manufacturing in India for some time.

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      Dennis

      BMW and others have been manufacturing in India for some time.

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    RickWill

    China is winning.
    Manufacturing – Done
    Navy – Done
    Airforce – Working on it
    Spaceforce – Rivalling

    The key to dominance is finance. China is still a minnow in finance. Its presence is accelerating. Trade invoicing in CNY eclipsed the Euro in October:

    Though China trades more goods than any other nation, the yuan’s global presence is tiny. That’s changing, though. In October, the yuan accounted for 8.7% of global trade finance, surpassing the euro (6.6%) to become the world’s second-most-used trading currency behind the dollar, according to the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT).

    https://qz.com/153290/more-trade-is-now-settled-in-yuan-than-in-euro-but-global-dominance-is-still-a-ways-off

    So still a long way behind the USD but now second ranked in trade invoicing.

    Biden is doing a great job of flushing the USD down the global toilet. And China is stepping up to fill the gap. Crunch time for the USA will be when no other country wants to increase their holding of US debt.

    The once Great Britain is down the financial crapper. Their next step will be a bailout:

    The British billionaire investor Guy Hands has warned that Britain needs to renegotiate Brexit if it is to avoid seeking a bailout from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), a report has said. According to Hands, Britain’s poorly negotiated exit from the European Union is the primary cause of the United Kingdom’s ongoing economic woes.

    https://news.bitcoin.com/report-billionaire-says-britain-may-be-forced-to-seek-bailout-from-imf-if-it-does-not-renegotiate-brexit-deal/

    The USA is the only country able to support never ending current account deficits by creating money. UK does not create the global currency. China soon will.

    Buy Yuan is probably good advice that I will not likely follow.

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      Raving

      China isn’t winning. Tide is turning.

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      Graham Richards

      Give Rishi Sunak a little more time & UK will find itself back in the EU & fully committed to the Euro €€€ when that same PM dumps British Stirling £££. Always remember he is a WEF acolyte!!

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        John Connor II

        Rishi Sunak prepares sweeping tax rises for years to come for EVERYBODY: PM and Chancellor Jeremy Hunt agree to fill ‘eye-watering’ £50billion black hole through tax increases AND spending cuts as Treasury insiders warn ‘It’s going to be rough’

        Rishi Sunak is preparing sweeping tax rises for years to come for every household in the country, as the PM and Chancellor Jeremy Hunt agree to fill ‘eye-watering’ £50billion black hole through a combination of tax increases and spending cuts.

        Mr Sunak and Mr Hunt agreed yesterday it was ‘inevitable’ that all taxpayers will face a higher burden in the coming years.

        Their grim assessment came after they decided that soaking the rich and taking an axe to public spending will not be enough to balance the books and protect services, with an estimated £50 billion to be found.

        A Treasury source said last night: ‘It is going to be rough. The truth is that everybody will need to contribute more in tax if we are to maintain public services.

        ‘After borrowing hundreds of billions of pounds through Covid-19 and implementing massive energy bills support, we won’t be able to fill the fiscal black hole through spending cuts alone.’

        They added that Mr Sunak and Mr Hunt are committed to protecting the most vulnerable in society during the ‘difficult period’ ahead.

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11375195/Spending-cuts-not-eye-watering-black-hole-Budget-feel-pain.html

        All of society constitutes “the most vulnerable”, unless your worth approaches $1B…

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    James Murphy

    I think Egypt is an apt location for a COP conference.
    – they already have many monuments demanded by their rulers and paid for with taxes
    – the monuments still remain, even after thousands of years
    – they didnt mind using slave labour to get the job done..

    Just like solar panels and wind turbines…

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      RickWill

      Just like solar panels and wind turbines…

      Nope – Even the footings for the wind and solar farms use carbon steel, which has a relatively short life; measured in decades rather than millennia.

      I have been thinking about designing wind turbines to last the centuries that are needed to recover the energy that goes into their manufacture. There would be no point using steel because it deteriorates through fatigue and corrosion. There would be enormous cost in maintaining corrosion protection but building fatigue resistance has to be designed in at great cost.

      There may be ways to construct earth mounds that create pressure differential driving very high airspeeds that could drive compact turbines that are much lower cost to replace. Basically earthen venturis with small turbines in the core.

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        James Murphy

        There I was, thinking people would see my comment as a nothing more than facetious…

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          Ross

          Doesn’t matter if its blogs or social media – you have to be very careful with satire. To be safe these days I very often use “(sic)” or just “( satire)”

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          RickWill

          I simply saw your facetiousness and raised it.

          Wind turbines and solar panels do not even make good monuments. If you want something to last it is best to use rock. Any carbon steel rapidly returns to whence is came (albeit not in the same exact location) before China combined it with coal in a furnace.

          The glass and silicon in the solar panels will hang about but those elements will be strewn across the countryside as their mounts fail.

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      John Connor II

      Egypt is actually quite interesting.
      There’s a theory that the pyramids were built by a civilisation before them and the Egyptians just “moved in after” as it were.
      That could explain a lot.
      Slave labour was more likely a multi generational labour of loyalty than slavery.

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    Raving

    Greens are happy about this. Been reading here long enough to realize how far away this is from 100% renewable for most of the time.

    https://reneweconomy.com.au/renewables-reach-record-68-7-per-cent-share-of-grid-power-in-australias-main-grid/

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      Sambar

      And yet, at best they can only work for 50% of the time. Hmmm once again, back to making statistics provide any answer that you want. They can’t possibly provide close to three quarters of power consumed when they dont work half the time.

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    Raving

    I can only watch as the world goes up against the renewable wall. Where renewables will produce at most 59%-660% (?) of electricity. Meanwhile the demand/excess-slack will increase 3 to 5 times

    Opportunity to use cheap renewable will result in an increase demand which will make electricity more expensive.

    These are green preditctions BTW

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    Simon

    Per capita and/or cumulative emissions are more illuminating:
    # Country CO2/Capita Emissions Population
    1 China 7.38 10,432,751,400 1,414,049,351
    2 United States 15.52 5,011,686,600 323,015,995
    ..
    14 Australia 17.10 414,988,700 24,262,712
    https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

    https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions#per-capita-co2-emissions

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      David Maddison

      Why is CO2 a problem?

      In any case, the same rules should apply to all.

      If Western countries have to destroy their economies for the sake of the green god Gaia, then China should too.

      Why are you supporting the Chinese economy via allowing them access to hydrocarbon power but in favour of destroying the economy of Australia and other Western countries by forcing them to use expensive, economy-destroying unreliables?

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        Grogery

        Why is CO2 a problem?

        This is where I start whenever I chat with any climate doom-sayers.

        The fact of the matter is: if you could get it through their thick heads that CO2 is not a problem, EVERY single argument following is null and void.

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        Memoryvault

        Why is CO2 a problem?

        It isn’t. But even if it was there’s stuff all we could do about it.

        Atmospheric CO2 levels are inversely proportional to sea surface temperatures. The warmer the oceans the more CO2 is outgassed to the atmosphere. The cooler the oceans the more CO2 is dissolved in the water and there’s SFA mere humans can do about it.

        This is fully in accordance with Henry’s Law and was taught at senior high school level sixty years ago. Today apparently it is not even taught at university level.

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      Ross

      Per capita is a red herring statistic ( and you know it). Its the total contribution to the system that matters and Australia has probably now even dipped under 1% of total anthropogenic C02 emissions.

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      el+gordo

      Per capita is sociology nonsense, they had no right to paint us red.

      The continent is a carbon sink, particularly during wet times like now, so in real terms Australia has already paid its dues.

      Also, the chaotic weather we are experiencing at the moment is not related to carbon dioxide.

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      b.nice

      Its great that you agree that CO2 emissions by China and India is not a problem…

      … and that there is no reason why they shouldn’t continue to increasing those emissions.

      So obviously.. It can’t be a problem for countries producing far less. !

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      TdeF

      Wonderful! Australia is on a par with the evil Falkland Islands with a population of just under 3,000 people. What are they thinking, polluting the planet like that.

      So why aren’t they apologizing to the Falkland islands? Or to us?

      50% of the world’s CO2 is from China and they get a free pass because they are only 17% of the world’s population. And where would we be without Chinese windmills and solar panels? Despite the fact that neither have any known effect on CO2. In fact nothing has except ocean temperature.

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    Ross

    I can remember Barack Obama having his Neville Chamberlain moment after one of those COP talkfests. He proudly declared all participants had agreed to emission reduction targets. The only thing he never did was wave that bit of paper around like NC did after the Munich agreement.(1938?) Only thing was later we learned ( much later ) China had agreed to emission reduction targets but would only start in 2030. Hands up anyone who trusts China to even abide by that agreeement?? Yep, no one, just as I thought.

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    John Connor II

    Say what you will about China, but at least they provide jobs for their children. 🤣

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    OldOzzie

    Recipe for cheaper power is stop treating gas as the enemy

    Energy Minister Chris Bowen must set ideology aside and support the critical role of gas in delivering lower emissions, improved reliability and lower prices.

    Amanda Stoker – Columnist and former senator

    The recipe for cheaper energy in Australia is remarkably simple. But it seems Energy Minister Chris Bowen either can’t – or won’t – do what is necessary to deliver it.

    Labor promised cheaper energy and higher wages before May’s election.

    October’s budget shows it will deliver neither; its promise for energy bills to be $275 a year cheaper for households and businesses incongruent with budget papers telling Australians to expect a 56 per cent increase in the price of energy over the next two years.

    Although Labor is keen to blame the conflict in Ukraine for higher prices, the demand that it has produced is only one part of the story. Let’s face it, Europe’s energy woes were well and truly apparent at the time of May’s promise.

    The rest of the cause is home-grown. The good news is that the solution can be too.

    The bad news is that it will take a government willing to stop demonising gas and support the role it can play in delivering lower emissions, improved reliability and lower prices.

    There are three elements to achieving this goal.

    Possible solutions

    First, it is vital that our nation does not over-invest in transmission. As state governments have learnt the hard way, the effect of over-building or “gold-plating” networks creates a high fixed component in the price of energy, undermining the benefits of lower energy prices when they are achieved.

    It seems from recent announcements that the Albanese government is yet to learn this message. It announced in the budget a $20 billion investment in transmission networks and seeks a further $58 billion of private investment.

    Upgrading transmission networks is expensive, and the need to do so is created by over-investment in renewables with insufficient firming capacity; that is, too little gas.

    Second, downward pressure is required on the price of gas in the domestic market.

    In the USA, there is clear price separation between the export market and the domestic market. The same was emerging in Australia before the last election. The key to ensuring a lower domestic price than is achieved for exported gas is to pump more gas than can be exported through local terminals. A pro-gas attitude from governments is key to achieving this objective.

    This is the deal that will deliver prices below $10 a gigajoule, which former ACCC chairman Rod Sims said Australia should be targeting.

    But the Albanese government continues to treat gas like the enemy.

    The obvious next question is: how do we get gas companies to pump more gas?

    It will take more than politicians beating their chests.

    There is a practical, sensible deal to be done between the big gas producers – Shell, Origin and Santos – and governments to ensure Australians get what they need for a reasonable price.

    Australians need more gas pumped into the network. Gas producers need assistance with the carbon capture and storage pathways that will help them become the low-emission operations they want to be. They need assurances that governments won’t create an adverse environment for investment by changing the rules of the game too wildly or too often, and they need help to work through barriers such as moratoriums on the development of gas fields and unbalanced project approval processes.

    – Replacing supply

    The only question is whether Bowen can set his pride and ideology aside and act in the national interest.

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      Robber

      Overinvesting in the network for intermittent and widely distributed wind and solar generators is economic madness 101.
      Let’s build a waffle of windmills with nameplate capacity say 250 MW.
      That means that the poles and wires and transformers must all be sized to cope with up to 250 MW of instantaneous power delivery.
      But on average that waffle of windmills will only deliver 75 MW (30% capacity factor) so there is an overbuild of 200%.
      One option is to build battery storage adjacent to the wind generators to smooth out the delivery at an average of 75 MW.
      The other option is to build gas generators nearby to utilise the spare grid capacity.
      Either way, what a waste of our taxes.

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    Vicki

    The “kowtowing” to China by the West over the last few decades has been despicable. Even worse, are those eminent individuals (documented best by Clive Hamilton in his warnings about Chinese influence) who have traded money for patriotism towards their countries of origin.

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    OldOzzie

    POSTED ON NOVEMBER 1, 2022 BY JOHN HINDERAKER IN ENERGY POLICY

    A TRANSITION TO FOSSIL FUELS IS UNDER WAY

    At Watts Up With That, Vijay Jayaraj notes that the opposite is true. Links omitted:

    Despite the fanfare surrounding wind and solar, the world’s dependency on fossil fuels is increasing. Last week, Saudi Aramco CEO Amin Nasser said that the world is now “transitioning to coal.”

    Not a headline you are likely to see in the New York Times.

    Saad al-Kaabi, Energy Minister of Qatar, says, “Many countries particularly in Europe which had been strong advocates of green energy and carbon-free future have made a sudden and sharp U-turn. Today, coal burning is once again on the rise reaching its highest levels since 2014.”

    They are right. Global coal demand will reach an historic high in 2022, similar to 2013’s record levels. According to the International Energy Agency (IEA), “Global coal consumption is forecast to rise by 0.7 percent in 2022 to 8 billion tons…. Coal consumption in the European Union is expected to rise by seven percent in 2022 on top of last year’s 14 percent jump.”

    Coal will continue to be a sought-after energy source as “rising gas prices after 2030 will make existing coal-fired generation more economic,” the IEA says. Global energy demand will grow by 47 percent from now through 2050, and oil is expected to be the major source of energy.

    Happily, the United States has vast, almost endless, reserves of coal. In recent years there has been a transition, not from coal to renewables, but from coal to natural gas. But that could change:

    Analysts are projecting “a huge gas-to-coal fuel transition in power and industrial sectors” of Europe. Yes, not gas to renewables, but gas to coal. In fact, the European Union’s coal consumption grew 16 percent year-on-year for the first half of 2022. European countries imported 7.9 million tons of thermal coal in June, more than doubling year-on-year. Annual coal imports are expected to reach 100 million tons by the end of the year, the highest since 2017.

    Even in the most developed economies of the West like Germany and the UK, fossil fuels continue to dominate as the only dependable source of energy. Germany is set to become the third highest importer of Indonesian coal in 2023, ranked just below coal-guzzling China and India.

    AP says, “Coal, long treated as a legacy fuel in Europe, is now helping the continent safeguard its power supply and cope with the dramatic rise in natural gas prices caused by the war.” Rather than wind or solar, it is coal that is keeping the lights on in Europe.

    More at the link, concluding with this:

    Qatar’s Saad Al-Kaabi says that European ”green” policies are responsible for high energy prices and that leaders in the West “don’t have a plan.” Energy shortages have forced them to return to the most dependable sources — coal and oil. They are now scampering to ensure energy security for winter, when many believe likely that there will be power blackouts in the UK and Germany.

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    OldOzzie

    Big freeze strikes Australia: Antarctic blast lashes the east coast and SNOW dumps just outside Sydney as temperatures plunge to single digits in Melbourne – just four weeks out from summer

    . Aussies have woken to a chilly morning as the coast is lashed by icy weather
    . Antarctic winds have been dragged north by a bend in the polar jet stream
    . The polar jet stream has clashed with the subtropical jet stream across Aus
    . Snow has fallen outside Sydney as flood warnings are issued for inland NSW
    . Temperatures have plummeted to single digits in Canberra and Melbourne

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      Dennis

      It’s around 20C on the NSW Mid Coast at present but with strong gusts of wind and with wind chill factor uncomfortably cold, I switched the reverse cycle air conditioner on a couple of hours ago.

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      Goodness
      . Global warming has fallen outside Sydney as flood warnings are issued for inland NSW

      Fixed it for you.

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    David Maddison

    I looked up private jet parking arrangements for COP27 but for the first time, none have been published as for previous meetings.

    Maybe they’re embarrassed that most attendees fly in by private jet as previously.

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    Geoffrey Williams

    Can’t blame the Chinese, because we are the fools . .

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      Dennis

      We are fools, we elected the representatives now in parliaments and despite Australia having an abundance of fuels including high quality black coal, good quality brown coal, natural gas fields and including shale oil and gas, uranium, thorium many Australians accept political deception blaming foreign events for our energy crisis.

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    David Maddison

    Among the numerous things that are banned in Egypt where COP27 is taking place are binoculars and drones. Must be a fun place. It is completely compatible with the kind of dictatorship COP27 attendees aspire to.

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    Cookster

    As soon as the west capitulated to China again as Glasgow after the farce of Paris I knew global warming was a scam. There are two chances of the west reducing emissions enough to offset the growth from China alone: Buckleys and none!

    In Australia we have political scammers collectively known as “teals” backed by largely unknown business interests. These politicians all got voted in on the basis of taking climate “action”. When blackouts, brownouts and demand management become the norm by 2025 I will openly laugh at anyone who asks how could this happen. Ignorance is how.

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    CHRIS

    You think that’s bad. Guess which country is trying to get COP 28? Hello Mr Bowen.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    The CCP is cashing in on the West’s silly beggar addiction to wokeium attributes like inane personal pronouns and the warped dogma of gender fluidity. . No need to wage war. The west will conquer itself and hand the victory to the CCP.

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    Erny72

    You say all this like it’s the CPC’s fault or they’re doing something wrong. Was it Sun Tzu or Napoleon who said, more or less, “don’t interfere when your enemy is busy treading on his dick’? If we’re so keen to rush headlong into dependence on politically correct, virtue signalling, unreliable, subsidy dependent crap energy and destroy our industrial competitiveness in the process, why wouldn’t China do the intelligent thing in support of its own national interest and egg us on to our own econocide? The difference is they have leaders running their country while we have whackers.

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