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Who said birds aren’t good pets?
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I worry about my parrot. Parents got it when I was 5. They’re in a different country. She’s probably got another few decades left. She only likes my father.
My mom has an African Grey she got 20 years ago. He absolutely loathes me - I’ve already told her he’s going to my brother when she passes cause I’m not going to be saddled with a bird who hates my guts for the next 30-50 years.
I've done rehabs and rescues for 15 years. Old or young, I've never met a grey that can't be bribed or trained with the right tools. If you've got a bird that "hates" you, then your mom, unfortunately, may have fallen for the untrue saying that greys are one person birds and they can't bond with lots of people. What happens, then, is people get a bird and fail to socialize it. A poorly socialized bird is a very frustrated bird.
They are hard wired to live in flocks of hundreds of individuals--there's no one bird in charge, and no they don't hate you. The aggression comes from needs that aren't being met and (often) accidental mating stimulation. (The lady in this video we're commenting on, for example, is petting the birds back. She's straight up being sexual with him. That's how they work. LOTS of people make that mistake.)
When the time comes, have your brother check out the BirdTricks channel on YouTube. They go over legitimate bonding and training techniques. Nobody should have to take in a bird they don't want, but being armed with the right information makes it a lot easier.
Signed--a lady who's maybe too into parrots, and just really likes to help people with them.
Could I possibly send you a DM? I have some questions regarding my two green wing macaws
Certainly, but as my night is ending it'll be a little while before I can be very thorough. If you're alright with waiting, my inbox is always open!
Be careful African greys are smart af, I would tread carefully and never say anything around the bird because they will mock you
I am already owned by a Australian Port Lincoln parrot and you can’t get African Greys here but it sounds like my sort of bird.
They are the smartest bird in the world google it it's pretty cool
As a parrot lover, and definitely not owner, it was hard to see that and ex-gf's parents took on an African Grey because the mums dad died so she felt bad but really didn't want it. So now the bird sits in a cage all day everyday. Poor baby is so smart and needs scritches and love but is gonna waste away for decades in that box.
My Aunt and uncle had 6 parrots (by the end, I think there were 8 or 9 total over time) they started getting them about 30 or so years ago. They never had kids, had they wanted to I don't know it would've been possible to keep all the birds as well. It a HUGE amount of work to care for them all.
3 years ago my Uncle passed away suddenly. Its was way too much work for just my aunt to take care of them herself so she had to rehome them. It took the last 2 years to find somewhere for them all. They had previously had an agreement with a center on Vancouver Island to take them, had it written in their wills that they would go there, but about 5 years (I think) before my uncle passed, the owner of the center passed themselves and the center shut down.
A couple of my aunt and uncles parrots initially went to individuals but were returned because they couldn't care for them properly. Most ended up being taken to a kangaroo farm that cares for other exotic pets a 16hrs drive from where my aunt and uncle lived. They had to fly them there in a plane. Luckily its only 2hrs from where most of my family lives so we get to go visit. My grandpa is the only person their Macaw, Janga, will allow to touch him anymore. The care staff there have to wear massive gloves and he tries to take off their fingers everytime. Without gloves he could definitelt clip them off like its nothing. The care staff love to have my grandpa hold Janga when he visits and teach the other guests about how they bond and have strong relationships with certain people in their lives.
Being a bird person sounds kind of rough, I like my human body as is.
And the screaming. Constant, merciless bird screaming. These are not housepets.
This 100%. My parents have one and I hate it. And I love animals, but I fucking hate these birds
If I had wings in a cage, I’d scream too.
Don’t forget the mess. To bird owners, the phrase “eat like a bird” means “throw your food all over the floor, then poop everywhere”
Also, I’m certain in the wild they live in huge and very sociable flocks. Exotic birds are a very irresponsible choice of pet.
Especially if you’re not VERY committed for a VERY long time.
If any animal loved me as much as that bird loved her, I would be down for a life commitment
The hard part is the possibility that the bird will outlive you and will struggle to keep a new owner after you die. (they're very high maintenance animals) If you want to get a big parrot, look into getting an older one rather than a baby.
I had a lovebird that could not live without me
They're also incredibly high maintenance. Combined with their long lifespan, it's very common for them to get rehomed after some years. Next time you're at the zoo and you see a keeper around the parrots, ask if any are former pets. Near guarantee that some of them will be.
And they need a lot of connection and communication. Just leaving them by themselves all day in a cage is incredibly cruel.
Anyone who has ever owned one. They are much more demanding than other pets, require near constant attention, are super messy and live FOREVER. I've owned birds my whole life and wouldn't recommend them as a pet to anyone.
Good answer. I would like to add, they are also a frequent black market commodity captured and smuggled from the wild. And, the bites. My god, nothing bites like a parrot. I only had a blue front amazon, I can't imagine what those big macaws can do when they are angry.
A hyacinth macaw like those in the video, can bite through the average wooden broomstick. Dont mess with macaws. They'll mess you up good.
Theyre also 15k so ya know, all you people who dont know what to do with 15k just send it to me and ill send you monthly greeting cards. Cheaper in the long run, and virtually no risk of me biting you.
Send me 15k and I’ll visit weekly and only bite you if you stick a finger in my mouth or something
send me 15k and i wont bite under any circumstance lol
I had a friend growing up who had two parrots and as we were talking about how I wanted one her “sweet one” bit her ear and ripped a chunk out. I was 12 and that moment I went y’all are pretty but nope y’all crazy.
Yep you're not supposed to let medium to big parrots on your shoulder, something about the pecking order.
I could be wrong but isn't this lady getting stabbed on the top of the head here? Looks painful.
I think her flinch is because the parrot of shifting position, digging its talons into her shoulder. That shit hurts.
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Oh yeah...at the very end maybe...video stops too soon. It might be a nuzzle too. These guys look captive bred and pretty sweet.
I have had birds all my life and while I have had a number of bites, the worst one was from an evil little budgie named Hilary. Hilary bit the beak off of her mate also. Not a nice girl. Birds are totally worth the commitment- they are continually learning and they most definitely have senses of humor!
To weirdos like us, sure. But most people aren't fit to have a bird.
Most people aren't fit to have pets
My little tiny black cap conure has given me a scar on my nose. I will never get in a macaw's way everrrrr.
Yeah, seriously this. They're super amazing pets, and the worst possible pet for just about everyone.
Oh, and don't forget if it out lives you, it may never recover emotionally. I love birds, but would never own a parrot. Now a corvid... I'm tempted by.
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I can't even handle my toddler being a toddler for 3-4 years, parrot people are nutso
They can also be the most affectionate and loving creature, but, yes, they come at a hefty price. It's sad aswell, many people will get them not knowing this and not care for them properly. Definitely a pet that you need to research HEAVILY on, and be prepared for the most work you'd have in your life. They're basically toddlers for life.
Oh yeah definitely. They can be so sweet and affectionate. They are incredibly intelligent which is why they are such a handful. I've never heard parrots described as "toddlers for life" but that is probably the best description I've ever heard. I'm totally using that!
Dinosaur toddlers that will outlive you and your next of kin. But they are heckin cute so I'm glad there are people out there that can handle it.
Toddlers for life except they can fly and have a chainsaw on their face
They're too intelligent to be pets.
It's the same problem as some of the smarter species of dogs that need 6+ hours a day of enrichment or develop behavioral problems. The average person would be way better off buying a giant cage and getting 3 ~ 4 budgies. The birds can socialize with each other, they don't live 50+ years, and they're not going to start plucking just because you had to work late.
More intelligent parrots are a serious lifestyle commitment more like having a child than adopting a dog. If someone told you their child that they kept locked in cage all day was ripping their hair out, screaming and biting, you'd call child services - but people do that to parrots that are just as intelligent, and seem baffled by the health problems it causes.
I keep hearing this as a downside. I don't want another dog because they pass too soon. Maybe I need a mid life Macaw.
I did this because my dog died and I saw a macaw in need at a pet store (she'd been there for 10 years)
Don't do it.
She has her own bedroom. She has chewed through two doors. I bought a brass plate, she chewed through that, so now I have 5mm thick steel plating on her door and she's scratching through the drywall. I will have to replace every single piece of wood moulding or shelving if I ever want to sell my house.
She attacks others, because she has no sense of self preservation. Gave my mom 9 stitches, tried to bite the jugular of my housemate. After living with her for two years, she still occasionally flies at my husband and tries to hurt him - he wears a leather hat, a gorgette, and a falconer's glove.
I can't have her out all the time, so she gets a couple hours freedom a day, and if she hears me talking, she screams. Have you ever heard a macaw scream in person? It's meant to travel for miles. Wanted to get her a small companion bird like a cockatiel Then I found out...
They sometimes eat other birds
They can bond with another bird so strongly that you become the enemy. Then I'd have two hostile animals instead of one.
You want to snuggle and love on your bird, right? And they will want it, too. Well... Don't. Because if you touch them anywhere but the head or feet, it's basically a sexual advance that you can't follow through with. So then you have a sexually frustrated, flying, screaming creature as intelligent as a toddler, confused because you're not mating with them.
I've had my bird for eight years. We love each other and as horrible as I make her life out to be with me, it's a damn lot better than that pet store. But it's not where she should be. She shouldn't exist at all.
This is the correct answer. Intelligent birds as "pets" should not be a thing. It's like having a human or monkey as a pet. Fucked up and antiquated.
Bruh people just don't keep them right
This just mystifies. My cat is a chubby brat who demands food and attention constantly, so I understand taking care of a pet that is high maintenance, but there are limits. Yeah, pets are like family, but they're still animals. Surely at some point you throw in the towel, especially when they're injuring your actual human family. You know that you can accept this bird has been damaged by others and it's not your fault, and as much as you'd like to fix it, that doesn't mean it's possible.
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If you have the time, start volunteering with a local bird rescue. Many avian rescues won’t even consider releasing a bird to an individual who hasn’t previously volunteered with the rescue. You get the additional benefit of learning bird behavior without accidentally screwing up the quality of life for your one bird at home.
Not to mention, you could fall in love with a bird at that rescue. Like people, birds can have prejudices. Some birds dont like brown hair. Some birds dont like pale skin. Best way to know if a bird is a good fit is to spend a lot of time with it.
Cats live longer than dogs
Cats can live 15+
Not to mention loud as hell.
Yeah I have a macaw and a Grey, I love them both to pieces but they require massive amounts of work. Only get them if you are ready for a lifetime with a creature that has the intelligence of a 6 year old but the emotions of a 2 year old. They are DEMANDING
People who have had parrots as pets say that they don’t make good pets. They are incredibly difficult. No one says you can’t form a bond with them though.
Same with Sugar Gliders. I love ours and we take very good care of them, but they should not be pets.
I’ve had a ton of pets and none of them have scared me more than our sugar glider. He wouldn’t let me touch him for so long and I lived in constant fear of him self-mutilating because apparently that is a thing?? My family were wayyy in over our heads and found a great rescue for him. But damn Thor, you scared the shit out of me.
Ours are very sweet. The male only bites if my hair is too messy. Unclear if he is grooming me too rough or if he thinks my hair is a bird.
Ours have an entire room in our house, with a space heater that then requires a humidifier. They get fresh fruit, avocado, nuts, yogurt, and hard boiled eggs every night. They like meal worms, which are expensive, so we’ve had to start a small meal worm farm for them, as well. They need to be able to forage for food and to be socialized with often.
We’ve been doing this for six years. We have two gliders (10 and 8 y/o). When the female dies, it is going to put us in a bad spot. The male WILL need a partner, as he has been alone once before for about a week and it was not good. Another glider is 10-12 more years commitment. We could integrate him into another colony, but that means 30 days isolation after losing his cage mate and being taken from his home. At 8+ years old, this will be incredibly stressful for him.
Yeah no one should have these as pets.
You can rehome them as a pair before one passes. I have suggies and I wouldn’t say they are hard to take care of. Mine just kind of hang around most of the time.
I have sugar gliders, and I disagree. I have a very large enclosure and two gliders who came as a pair. They get fresh food and mealworms as treats, which I hand feed them. They're playful, intelligent, happy little ones that are human friendly enough that I can get them out for guests to pet without them getting overly shy and without aggression. They play tricks on one another, and sometimes bicker like an old married couple. They're definitely safer and better fed in captivity than they'd ever have been in the wild, and I regularly change up their cage/toys so they stay entertained.
Sugar Gliders are native to Australia. Every glider in the US was bred to be a pet in captivity, there is no “in the wild” here for them. They wouldn’t survive in this climate.
Yes, they are intelligent and sweet and social. But they require a lot of clean up and dedication. Please don’t make them seem easier than they are. Pocket Pets have marketed them as glamorous hamsters and these animals are suffering for it. People buy them on a whim and don’t know how to properly care for them. They’ve created a problem that didn’t need to exist.
Hamsters bite more and harder than sugar gliders, and require no less clean up. People absolutely should learn to care for ANY pet they take on, including dogs or cats. But it's silly to act as if sugar gliders are somehow untamable wild beasts.
I’ve got a pair and they do just fine. The problem with suggies is the people that buy them. Dogs will give love and attention right away. Sugar gliders are scared at first, but incredibly social. Once you bond with them though, it’s easy street. I take my gliders out all time and go on walks. They jump on stuff but as soon as I’m more than 2 feet away they crawl up my legs afraid to be left behind. It just takes effort and patience.
Oh you definitely can form a bond with parrots and anybody that owns one would know this explicitly. It’s not uncommon for a parrot to love one person in a family and absolutely loath everybody else. My macaw loves me but hated my fiancé and our grey was visa versa. The big difference between the two birds was that I could win the greys trust after awhile where the macaws hate was unfaltering 😂
So yeah, bonding definitely happens.
Bro parrots are great pets you just need to constantly be with them
By which metric? If an animal requires constant and vigorous nurture it doesnt make it a very good pet does it? Plus the fact that they live 50-60 years (80 for this particular breed)...
Well yes but actually no, all you have to do is spend time with them watch tv with the do your homework with them, hell I even do the dishes with mine, what you get in return is a unmatched bond between a man and bird the feeling of coming home and hearing them exitedly whistle as you walk through the door it can't be explained. I have had well trained dogs cats fish but nothing compares to a bird and the feeling you have when they snuggle you and squwark when you're not near them.
digs beak into head
Parrots can have a lot more problems than other pets or even other birds. Bird rescues are constantly over capacity, but especially with parrots. They can have behavioral issues, bonding/trust issues, pining issues, not even going into vet bills. They can also be one of the loudest pets. I mean LOUD. People always go for how cute/smart/fun pets are and aren't half as prepared as they like to think for the negatives. It's sad.
Worse thing I heard was that some ppl abandon parrots because they didn't realize they lived so long :/
They also have super sensitive respiratory systems so you can't have air fresheners/candles/scented things like that, you cannot use Teflon cookware and have to be very cautious about the cleaning supplies you use.
Isn't petting anything other than the head a way to turn birds on? Like I stg this is something only the mate of the bird is allowed to do? You should really only touch the head I swear, I'm not 100% educated on it, it could just be a few breeds of birds but I know I've both read this in articles and seen this in YouTube videos of bird owners
No you're right, you're only supposed to touch parrot heads and feet.
Yeah, no. If that was her bird and not some pay to pet thing, she'd lose a finger to a sexually frustrated bird who thought they were gonna get some and did not. And by lose a finger, I mean that quite literally--that bird could bite off a human finger without trying particularly hard.
Yeah no bird definitely thinks hes getting it in from this vid.
I’m not saying they aren’t good pets, but I am saying they ARE government spy drones.
r/BirdsArentReal
I’m starting to think this is like the r/antimask of the conspiracy
💀
r/birdsarntreal
I do.
It's weird that people keep animals that fly, the ultimate expression of freedom, inside homes and cages.
You said it - yet another example of humans putting their own capricious wishes before what’s best for another being. Birds belong in the wild, not in tiny cages
Look up freeflying. Many people, realizing exactly that, train recall for months in order to fly their birds outdoors whenever safe weather and suitable space is available.
I didn't know about that. Thanks for the info.
Couldn’t agree more. Could never ever understand keeping something that could fly in a cage. Including a house as a cage. I’ll never support birds as pets.
Amen, how you can keep a bird in your house and not feel guilt every time you look at it is beyond me
Everyone who raises birds for starters
These birds live 60-ish years in the wild. Longer in captivity if cared for well. That's a lot of cage cleaning.
And noise...
Ugh, yes that squawk. I know it too well. These are not apartment pets.
Bro, I have a sun conure. She was given to my wife and I by someone going through a rough time. I would never get a sun conure. I love her to pieces, but she is the loudest little asshole ever.
They're great pets... If you want a three year old who will live for 50 years.
Macaws are more like 80-100
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Also it can fly and has a chainsaw on its face
Most people who know literally anything about owning birds?
I really genuinely worry about the mental health of someone who watches an eleven second clip and thinks "Ah yes, this is the entirety of pet ownership."
Is... Is no one going to mention how she's petting them all the way down their backs?? No wonder they, uh, love* her.
Three places macaws love scratches: down their spine, over their ears and under the wings. If you scratch there, they'll love you for sure.
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That's because anywhere but head neck and feet are erogenous zones for birds. So strocking down the back, wings, chest is basically turning the bird on. When you can take it further the bird gets frustrated and can become aggressive because of it.
ETA: I can also cause prolific egg laying in females
It releases enzymes, meaning a happy hormone. If it's a pet bird, that is how you get them to bond with you. You don't do it to a bird that is for breeding, since then they bond with you and not their partner. It really isn't an issue to scratch your own pet for them to release hormones which they won't release in another way, due to not being with other birds. As I've said in other comments around birds, I breed with them, I know what I'm talking about. If you've only had 1 or 2 pet parrots in your life, you don't really have enough experience to argue about this.
enzymes are not "happy hormones" you're thinking of neurotransmitters like dopamine and seratonin.
It's not quite right to say there absolutely isn't an issue though. It can cause females to become egg-bound, which is a problem. Here is a fantastic article by one of the in-house veterinarians at the Animal House of Chicago, who specializes in avian reproduction and endocrinology, all about egg-binding in commonly kept species of bird. Including how it can happen from improper stimulation.
It can also cause behavioural issues, as previously mentioned, but not exclusively towards you. Some birds can become possessive of you instead, and turn their aggression towards anyone who visits you or walks near you in the house. And if you've still chosen to cause them to bond to you in that way, the amount of separation issues, anxiety, and depression if you ever have to rehome the bird are greatly exaggerated and it's just not fair to them. There are other, healthier ways to bond with birds and help them to get a release of endorphins without basically jerking them off. For example: Actually take care of your bird and give them an adequate flow of steady, new enrichment on a regular basis.
While I may have 1 bird, my vet and my breeder have over 60 years combined experience in birds and they have told me exactly what I have said.
A guy in my neighborhood in Brooklyn once had a pet macaw. It escaped. They tried luring it out of a tree with another macaw mate. It was a whole ordeal.
Growing up, our cockatiel got out and flew into a tree across the street. Can confirm, it is a whole ordeal.
That lady is holding 90,000$
These are blue hyacinth macaws. Largest parrot.
Largest flighted parrot * Kakapo are the largest but cannot fly.
Bad idea allowing a bird that cracks coconuts to be above your head.
Crack your skull like a coconut
Birds (for most people) are not good pets. They are great to visit. You get great moments out of them where they make you laugh or smile, but it's between moments where they make you want to tear your hair out. They're loud. They break everything (fucking EVERYTHING they can get their beak on). They require hours of your attention each day. They shit everywhere. They get their food all over the fucking place. But the biggest thing is just the things they require. They need to be with whomever they are bonded to all the time. They need so much patience. You need to allow them to be a bird and not expect them to be a human. They squak. They break your things. They usually won't accept someone whom isn't their bonded partner, so no trips without the bird. Not to mention the jealousy. A lot of people can't handle this, so they end up in rescues. Birds are lovely when they are birds. Not so much when they are pets. Now I miss my boy Toby and am going to cry. Don't mind me.
The wince she made from those talons going into her skin says otherwise.
I don’t think the human is in charge here.
I wouldn't recommend one. Mum has a King Parrot and the god awful screeches it makes drives me crazy as well as hearing the same four or five phrases repeated in various screeches for hours everyday. And you can't teach it what it shouldn't do like stop chewing the back of a chair (from my experience and what I've read), anything it perceives as a negative from you makes it aggressive towards you so you essentially have to be constantly friendly to it or move it away from objects/people/pets. Can't tell it to shut the fuck up because it will learn to say shut the fuck up. Not to mention how much food it wastes.
Me me me I said it haha. They're the worst pets but the best flying toddlers with can openers on their faces.
(Love, someone with birds)
Yes, this is sweet but upset one of them and they eat your face. Birds bite really freaking hard!
Looks like she felt that claw shift on her shoulder. Ouch.
Birds are bad pets. Hope you like having a 2 year old for 25 years.
Yeah, you shouldn’t really pet anywhere below the head/shoulders area. Unless you intend to sexually pleasure the bird. “Affectionate” No shit they are. Lol
Of course they can be good pets, it’s just cruel to keep an animal that’s main function is flying cooped up in a house, or even worse, a cage.
Aww. Those dinosaurs love you!
That is a beautiful indigo blue color right there. ❤️
This woman:exists These parrots: FREE HOTEL WITH A PERSONAL MASSEUR.
Excuse me...I never said that...
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3 GOOD BRBS!!!!!
biggest berbs ever
Because they aren't real
Literally nobody, we just said a lot of pet owners aren't providing adequate care or environments since always.
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The plumage doesn't enter into it.
And then she bites your ear like a grape.
I dont get all the comments saying they're bad pets. I have a parrot and he's a complete sweetheart and super smart. I have whole conversations with him. Sure when he's upset with his food he chucks it as far as he can. It's nothing a vacuum can't clean up. It's really not that bad
What kind do you have?
Yellow nape Amazon!
Its not impossible for you to have a vastly better experience with one bird than the average bird owner
That's true. But no reason for anyone to be upset about it. That's how life is. Someone will always have either a better or worse experience than you did
The vibe I get from your original comment sounds like a dismissal of their experience (and goes against the warning of how much work a bird can be as a pet)
I imagine that would be why you're getting downvoted, could be something else idk
Why’s your comment getting downvotes?
Honestly no idea. Probably other bird people that're salty that there's someone who has the audacity to not be uptight about it
No my post surpassed the original in upvotes I don’t want that everyone please go upvote the original as well
Where's the original? You didn't include any way to find it.
It’s literally a cross post it is the original on the post if you tap it it takes you to the original
They are great pets but taking them out of their habitat is not good for them.
I sure as hell didn't say that.
Macaws are assholes. My parents used to have one that would try to attack me constantly, for no reason.
Wow 3 Hyacinths! Outstanding!!! I am jealous!!
Their wings? I don't think I would make it so my dog couldn't walk to keep it as a pet.
My dad’s had a Catalina macaw for about 20 years now. It’s funny sometimes, but is earsplittingly loud, temperamental, dirty, and craps anywhere, anytime. It’s gonna end up in the will to me. Hopefully I can get a zoo or preserve to take it when that happens.
Birds are the best pets I have ever had
They are good pets if they are trained properly but they are just noisy and messy
I remember those birds. I hit one with macaw
Macaw or macock 😏
This lady looks very familiar somehow. Have I seen her in a different bird post maybe?
My aunt had a macaw thy would hang in the side of the cage and squirt poop on you as you walked by.
Bleu chicken!
Too bad they’re extinct.
Look at the size of those chompers.
I would feel at least a bit uneasy at having three dinosaurs on me.
It’s a shame these don’t exist in the wild anymore :(
I had a pet cockatiel named Archimedes. Handsome boy
Birds with beaks that big terrify me.
Looks like a good finger lopper
Prometheus.
I fear the moment they get spooked and leap off with talons being kicked around on take off.
I’m not saying they’re good pets. I’m also not saying they can’t peck your eye out.
Nah. The bigger ones always look like they want to chomp my eyes or a finger.
I never understood people who have pet birds until I got Reddit. Birds can be super smart and loyal.
Beautiful!
Shes like daenerys with her 3 dragon babies
Aww omg like a little baby !
Good pets? That bird chomped her fucking head!
The problem is the noise. Their shrieks are unbearable.
Notice there's no sound on the video
I used to fight these things in stragglethorn vale.
Anyone who has had one lol parrots are terrible pets for 99% of people. Weirdos like me are the exception, not the rule.
Hyacinth Macaws can take your finger off without skipping a beat.
you may choose the bird as a pet, but the bird decides if you are family
That beak is no bueno. Good pet or not.