Hydrogen future? [image credit: cleantechnica.com]
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It would appear that Boris Johnson’s Net Zero promise to install 600,000 heat pumps per year by 2028 won’t happen after all now that Britain’s big boiler firms have promised households that they will be able to buy cheap hydrogen boilers instead says The GWPF.
The only question is how much the hydrogen that is supposed to heat our homes will cost consumers.
We’ll have to wait for the government’s hydrogen strategy which is reported to be launched at the end of August.
HYDROGEN boilers will cost no more than gas ones, saving Brits hundreds of pounds, top firms say.
The Big Four boiler firms have joined forces to vow a new price promise, meaning consumers will save a total of £2.3billion if they upgrade to an eco-friendly hydrogen model in future.
— The Sun
Full article here.
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is THE WORD leaking through ?
Unless Boris thinks we’ll go back to the Calor Gas delivery method of exchangeable bottles for hydrogen, he’s on a a hiding to nothing. I can just imaging the long queues at the gas bottle exchange stations, and the huge number of car journeys that would generate, no doubt all using hydrogen of course. What a fantasyland he lives in!
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Correct, ilma630. He leaps from one bad idea to another. Each requiring massive expense to masses of people.
The elephant in the room is odorant. There is no known odorant for hydrogen. The odorant put into natural gas enables people to realize there is a gas leak. Can’t be done with hydrogen. Home use of hydrogen is incideously dangerous. Piping hydrogen into people’s homes is insane.
Like all such schemes of these purveyors, they themselves should be the first to implement at the pilot stage.
Like the chief of police (and others) who publicly endorsed the jab, and promptly died within 48 hours from his own.
All this is the the mass insanity that originates with speculators in the financial sector.
All of the People can be fooled some of the time, but mostly a critically large percentage can be fooled all the time.
Why use electricity to make hydrogen when you could just use the electricity at far less overall cost?
The most reliable form of hydrogen for heat energy is quad-hydrogen carbide.
Ah! Methane 😁
As the popular green movement races inexorably to the great green omnishambles I’m reminded of Napoleon’s words “never interrupt your enemy while he’s making a mistake”.
H2 is a leaky, sneaky explosive fuel. Just add a few carbon atoms to get a much better one. Could be called gas….
Why think of using electricity to make hydrogen? Because if you install silly amounts of wind, trying to cover windless periods you will also end up with silly amounts of curtailment when it’s windy. Trouble is such events are not frequent and vary hugely in extent, depending on just how windy and what demand is at the time. So you are going to struggle to make efficient use of your electrolysers, which will push up costs – and you will still end up with quite a lot of curtailment which also has to be paid for. If you give them free electricity, billpayers will have to make up the difference on the power they do use, so it’s really just a subsidy.
But hey! It’s cheaper than batteries! And we’ll ignore that industrial hydrogen is made by SMR much more cheaply!
Is there any comment from the insurance industry on how the risk of hydrogen leaks will affect the cost of home insurance?
Hydrogen boilers and lithium-ion car batteries in or next to your home — what could possibly go wrong?
Oldbrew: “what can go wrong?” To the rational, everything, as the contents have pointed out, conceptually, physically and economically. To the green blob, nothing. And that’s the difference. Problem is, our dear PM is not in the land of the rational.
When is the heat pump for No. 10 Downing Street being installed? We should be told.