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Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Islie: 5:36pm On Jun 30, 2019
OLUFEMI ATOYEBI



The health sector may be thrown into a fresh crisis that may paralyse activities in government hospitals nationwide as the Nigerian Union of Allied Health Professionals has indicated its readiness to oppose the appointment of medical doctors as the minister and the minister of state for health in the ministry .
President of the Nigerian Union of Allied Health Professionals, Dr Obinna Ogbonna, who gave the hint in an interview with SUNDAY PUNCH , also accused the Federal Ministry of Health of ignoring 15 court judgements delivered in favour of medical laboratory scientists ’ autonomy .

President Muhammadu Buhari is expected to name his new ministers next month after his inauguration in office for a second term . This will , however, be subject to their confirmation by the National Assembly .
But Ogbonna, who faulted the old arrangement of restricting the appointment of both the minister of health and the minister of state for health to medical doctors , said it was unfair to continue to shut out other health professionals from the ministerial jobs relating to the sector .

He said, “ This crisis is coming again because both ministers in the ministry ( in the last cabinet ) are medical doctors , so they had the biases towards taking sides with their professional constituency . Even the permanent secretary in the ministry was a medical doctor until we protested and the Federal Government removed her and replaced her with someone else . ”
He accused principal officers in the health ministry , including the ministers , of disrespecting 15 court orders relating to the autonomy of laboratory scientists .
Ogbonna said the judgements were delivered in suits filed by laboratory scientists on encroachment into their professional activities by medical professionals.
The NUAHP president specifically accused medical doctors and pathologists of doing short courses to practise as medical scientists , putting the jobs of trained medical scientists at risk .

A document obtained by our correspondent on Saturday indicated that between October 23 , 2013 and January 26 , 2018 , a total of 13 court judgements were secured in Asaba , Jos , Ile -Ife , Uyo , Abakaliki , Enugu , Lokoja, Benin , Urrua , Sagamu and Kaduna.

It was learnt that four of the judgements had been appealed while others were subsisting.
Ogbonna added , “ The judgements revolve around the issue of autonomy for medical laboratory scientists. In the hospitals , we have medical laboratory scientists who get samples from patients , doing the tests and getting the results.

“ There is also a group of medical practitioners called pathologists . This group is encroaching into the activities and the work of medical laboratory scientists . They are trying to render them redundant . Doctors now want to specialise also in laboratory medicine .

That is not what they were trained for in the universities and medical schools . What they do now is to engage in three or four -month courses to dominate laboratory medicine .

“ The medical laboratory scientists approached a court and the court ruled that only medical laboratory scientists are trained to man laboratories and roll out results. Presently, we have secured 15 judgements in that regard but none of them is being respected by the Federal Ministry of Health.

“ To end the present crisis in the health sector , we are again calling on President Muhammadu Buhari not to appoint the two ministers for health from among doctors alone. We have others who are eminently qualified to be appointed as ministers from other allied professions in the sector . ”

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Bezkkop: 5:41pm On Jun 30, 2019
Interesting
Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by aero1: 7:44pm On Jun 30, 2019
I be nomba tiri

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by ejihand(m): 7:46pm On Jun 30, 2019
Good one

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by dumodust(m): 7:48pm On Jun 30, 2019
Empty noise... Those who know know

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by EazyMoh(m): 7:54pm On Jun 30, 2019
Our focus in this country should be community health development.
Jman06:
Honestly this matter calls for special consideration by the federal government!
There's need to listen to the demands of these healthcare professionals. You can't continue to suppress their voices and expect to have a smooth health sector that can guarantee quality healthcare delivery to Nigerians. Why can't government understudy how healthcare professionals work in synergy in the developed countries and replicate same here
Stop giving advantage to only one professional group while neglecting the demands of others! You can never get things right by doing that!

Medical doctors have been the ones running our health institutions for many years, yet we have one of the poorest health sectors in the world!
All the time they attribute our poor health sector to lack of adequate funding by the government but as a matter of fact, that is not completely true. No matter how much government invests in the health sector, we'll continue to have poor outputs until issues relating to professional rivalry in the sector are addressed.

To solve this problem once and for all, government should replicate the system being practiced in the UK here whereby professional healthcare administrators are put in charge of governing health institutions. The healthcare administrators are in a better position to manage the sector because they're usually individuals with no allegiance to any of the healthcare professional groups. So, the likelihood of being biased is greatly reduced.

Nigerian medical doctors on their part need to stop being insecure and concentrate in developing the numerous medical specialties that are grossly in short supply in this country! Imagine them dragging laboratory benches and pharmacies with medical lab scientists and pharmacists when their mates in the rest of the world are busy with organ transplantation, high risk pregnancies, plastic surgeries, stem cells transplantation etc. What a shame!
You have spoken well Sir.
Also in Nigeria especially Doctors do the least work in our communities. For example you will almost never find a full time medical doctor in our rural communities. Even local government general hospitals hardly have full time 24/7 medical doctors on duty. But the hospitals and clinics are manned by other professionals with the overwhelming number of patients and limited resources. Yet no credit is given to them and they are always looked down upon by the doctors.
I have seen villages where a single community health worker runs a clinic. He 'midwifes' births, prescribes drugs, carry out tests, make referrals and everything else! Because he's the most qualified medical practitioner within 50km radius.

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by ogawisdom(m): 7:59pm On Jun 30, 2019
How can a none doctor lead a doctor haba doesn't sound right. Doctors lead others follow

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by jobsbank(m): 8:01pm On Jun 30, 2019
They need Coza cleanser

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by olayinka63: 8:07pm On Jun 30, 2019
ogawisdom:
How can a none doctor lead a doctor haba doesn't sound right. Doctors lead others follow
Do you think medical doctors would be relevant without other health professionals? Bros not only medical doctors made up health industry

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by eendy(f): 8:17pm On Jun 30, 2019
bunch of jokers

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by jjwaterfalls(f): 8:19pm On Jun 30, 2019
Good one.

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by ultron12345: 8:20pm On Jun 30, 2019
Johesu have started again...... Rubbish

It's no ones fault their childhood dreams to become medical doctors were crushed by jamb. If you want to become minister of health, no-one is stopping you, just purchase jamb form and apply for medicine.

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Jman06(m): 8:26pm On Jun 30, 2019
Honestly this matter calls for special consideration by the federal government!
There's need to listen to the demands of these healthcare professionals. You can't continue to suppress their voices and expect to have a smooth health sector that can guarantee quality healthcare delivery to Nigerians. Why can't government understudy how healthcare professionals work in synergy in the developed countries and replicate same here
Stop giving advantage to only one professional group while neglecting the demands of others! You can never get things right by doing that!

Medical doctors have been the ones running our health institutions for many years, yet we have one of the poorest health sectors in the world!
All the time they attribute our poor health sector to lack of adequate funding by the government but as a matter of fact, that is not completely true. No matter how much government invests in the health sector, we'll continue to have poor outputs until issues relating to professional rivalry in the sector are addressed.

To solve this problem once and for all, government should replicate the system being practiced in the UK here whereby professional healthcare administrators are put in charge of governing health institutions. The healthcare administrators are in a better position to manage the sector because they're usually individuals with no allegiance to any of the healthcare professional groups. So, the likelihood of being biased is greatly reduced.

Nigerian medical doctors on their part need to stop being insecure and concentrate in developing the numerous medical specialties that are grossly in short supply in this country! Imagine them dragging laboratory benches and pharmacies with medical lab scientists and pharmacists when their mates in the rest of the world are busy with organ transplantation, high risk pregnancies, plastic surgeries, stem cells transplantation etc. What a shame!

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Marotzke(m): 8:27pm On Jun 30, 2019
ogawisdom:
How can a none doctor lead a doctor haba doesn't sound right. Doctors lead others follow
Current US secretary of Health and Human services is a lawyer.
I hope you realise that.

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by charleymed(m): 8:28pm On Jun 30, 2019
This is a joke.
Pathologist are not trying to dominate the labs, pathologist own the lab. One needs at least 11 years of medical education to become a pathologist, not 3 to 4 months as claimed by the slowpoke.
Get it

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by charleymed(m): 8:31pm On Jun 30, 2019
Jman06:
Honestly this matter calls for special consideration by the federal government!
There's need to listen to the demands of these healthcare professionals. You can't continue to suppress their voices and expect to have a smooth health sector that can guarantee quality healthcare delivery to Nigerians. Why can't government understudy how healthcare professionals work in synergy in the developed countries and replicate same here
Stop giving advantage to only one professional group while neglecting the demands of others! You can never get things right by doing that!

Medical doctors have been the ones running our health institutions for many years, yet we have one of the poorest health sectors in the world!
All the time they attribute our poor health sector to lack of adequate funding by the government but as a matter of fact, that is not completely true. No matter how much government invests in the health sector, we'll continue to have poor outputs until issues relating to professional rivalry in the sector are addressed.

To solve this problem once and for all, government should replicate the system being practiced in the UK here whereby professional healthcare administrators are put in charge of governing health institutions. The healthcare administrators are in a better position to manage the sector because they're usually individuals with no allegiance to any of the healthcare professional groups. So, the likelihood of being biased is greatly reduced.

Nigerian medical doctors on their part need to stop being insecure and concentrate in developing the numerous medical specialties that are grossly in short supply in this country! Imagine them dragging laboratory benches and pharmacies with medical lab scientists and pharmacists when their mates in the rest of the world are busy with organ transplantation, high risk pregnancies, plastic surgeries, stem cells transplantation etc. What a shame!

You just made a fool of yourself. You really do not know how healthcare in developed countries work. Do you?

Talking about stem cell transplant, do you know that the doctors who champion stem cell transplant are laboratory physicians called haematologist. They same people you accused of dragging bench with lab technicians or scientists as they often claim...

Always get your facts straight, and stop being stupid.

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Jman06(m): 8:35pm On Jun 30, 2019
charleymed:


You just made a fool of yourself. You really do not know how healthcare in developed countries work. Do you?
You're the big fool here because in the developed countries, leadership of health institutions is not an exclusive preserve of the physicians!

Even world health organization is not exclusively led by medical doctors!

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by nurex01(m): 8:40pm On Jun 30, 2019
They are coming
Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Freddonance(m): 8:45pm On Jun 30, 2019
Jman06:
You're the big fool here because in the developed countries, leadership of health institutions is not an exclusive preserve of the physicians!

Even world health organization is not exclusively led by medical doctors!



Smiles

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by optm(m): 8:54pm On Jun 30, 2019
to be fair , health ministerial position doesn't require clinical skill and it shouldn't be a privilege to a particular health profession. different professions make up the health sector and any person qualified for the task should be given nd not denied based on their profession .

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by helinues: 8:56pm On Jun 30, 2019
This are private health workers..

Na notice me things
Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by optm(m): 9:11pm On Jun 30, 2019
ultron12345:
Johesu have started again...... Rubbish

It's no ones fault their childhood dreams to become medical doctors were crushed by jamb. If you want to become minister of health, no-one is stopping you, just purchase jamb form and apply for medicine.
this is a foolish statement and void of sound logical reasoning . so everyone in the health sector desired being a medical doctor? should those who doesn't have any intention being a medical doctor go and apply to study medicine for a ministerial position because they would be taught in one of the clinical rotations skills required in becoming a health minister? it's very logical to assume that if a person from a certain profession is allowed to call the shots in matters that affects other professionals in same industry, that person would most likely show allegiance to his profession first and bias comes in such instances as regards decisions taken

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Nobody: 9:17pm On Jun 30, 2019
Jman06:
Honestly this matter calls for special consideration by the federal government!
There's need to listen to the demands of these healthcare professionals. You can't continue to suppress their voices and expect to have a smooth health sector that can guarantee quality healthcare delivery to Nigerians. Why can't government understudy how healthcare professionals work in synergy in the developed countries and replicate same here
Stop giving advantage to only one professional group while neglecting the demands of others! You can never get things right by doing that!

Medical doctors have been the ones running our health institutions for many years, yet we have one of the poorest health sectors in the world!
All the time they attribute our poor health sector to lack of adequate funding by the government but as a matter of fact, that is not completely true. No matter how much government invests in the health sector, we'll continue to have poor outputs until issues relating to professional rivalry in the sector are addressed.

To solve this problem once and for all, government should replicate the system being practiced in the UK here whereby professional healthcare administrators are put in charge of governing health institutions. The healthcare administrators are in a better position to manage the sector because they're usually individuals with no allegiance to any of the healthcare professional groups. So, the likelihood of being biased is greatly reduced.

Nigerian medical doctors on their part need to stop being insecure and concentrate in developing the numerous medical specialties that are grossly in short supply in this country! Imagine them dragging laboratory benches and pharmacies with medical lab scientists and pharmacists when their mates in the rest of the world are busy with organ transplantation, high risk pregnancies, plastic surgeries, stem cells transplantation etc. What a shame!

Absolutely brilliant!!

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Nigerianiski: 9:50pm On Jun 30, 2019
Clap for JOHESU
Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by oyatz(m): 9:53pm On Jun 30, 2019
These JOHESU people like telling so many lies just to get undue sympathy from the members of the Public.


How can you say that doctors aren't trained in the Universities to practice Laboratory Medicine or that Pathologists undergo 3-4 months course?

Google is freely available now, so anyone can read it up on Google on who are Pathologists and their levels of training.


How can you say Chemical Pathologists or Haematologists have no role to play in Chemical Pathology or Heamatology Laboratories?

This is like saying a Physicist has no role in Physics Laboratory.

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Nobody: 10:00pm On Jun 30, 2019
ogawisdom:
How can a none doctor lead a doctor haba doesn't sound right. Doctors lead others follow
But a lawyer led three ministries?

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by StoneLucifer: 10:11pm On Jun 30, 2019
Nothing just works right in this country.
Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Amarabae(f): 10:15pm On Jun 30, 2019
They should create ministry of medicine for them and leave ministry of health for us.
cool

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Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by armadeo(m): 10:22pm On Jun 30, 2019
Here we go again.
Re: Health Workers Plan Showdown With FG Over Ministerial Slots by Nobody: 10:27pm On Jun 30, 2019
Those laboratory guys are real lunatics. They should scrap that course at undergraduate level, turn into a post-graduate certificate.

So that these crazy people making noise would have to study a science degree like microbiology, biochemistry etc before going to the labs. That way, they would have to get busy and stop shouting up and down cool

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