Covid Problems Disrupting UN Climate Negotiations

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

You couldn’t make it up; Internet glitches, delegates too lazy to match timezones, and China objecting to the presence of observers at negotiations on transparency.

Climate change: UN virtual talks make little progress

By Matt McGrath
Environment correspondent

Exhausted delegates have concluded three weeks of virtual climate negotiations with little progress on key issues. 

The UN subsidiary bodies meeting was meant to clear the decks ahead of the major COP26 gathering in Glasgow in November. 

But technical glitches, and multiple time zones scuppered attempts to find common ground.

Developing nations are also concerned that a lack of vaccines may limit their ability to take part in the Glasgow conference. 

But the UK says it will ensure all accredited delegates will get their jabs ahead of the summit. 

The challenges of delegates in differing time zones with varying internet connections made these difficult negotiations a real struggle. 

“I think this was technically challenging for many parties, connectivity problems compounded and complicated the trust deficits that exist,” said Quamrul Chowdhury, a climate negotiator from Bangladesh.

“Even the low hanging fruits couldn’t be harvested,” he told BBC News.

As well as the technical challenges, there were issues with access for observers with China objecting to their presence at talks on transparency.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-57520510

I suspect COP26 will proceed anyway, despite this shambolic leadup. I mean, it is not like anyone expects genuine progress at a COP conference, even in a normal year.

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Curious George
June 20, 2021 2:09 pm

It seems to be a really diverse group. Diversity means that not everybody should be competent.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Curious George
June 20, 2021 4:45 pm

Diversity means that not everybody should be competent.

Or at the very least a full compliment of the ridiculously incompetent to the mildly stupid should be in attendance.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Curious George
June 20, 2021 9:29 pm

Everybody will be competent, but some will be competency challenged….

B Clarke
June 20, 2021 2:11 pm

Sounds like a big excuse, something else is going on that we are not being told.

Philo
Reply to  B Clarke
June 20, 2021 3:24 pm

Actually, in all the recent COP meetings something always was going on that wasn’t published or even clearly discussed.

Reply to  B Clarke
June 20, 2021 5:15 pm

What was not said is that the talks got nowhere on the big unresolved Paris issues. I do not see that changing at COP 26. Happily the radicals are destroying the UN climate process.

Felix
Reply to  David Wojick
June 20, 2021 5:29 pm

Any subject as poorly and vaguely defined as global climate catastrophe always attracts those who wish to scare governments into taking more power, but of course they always differ on who should be in charge, and thus scupper themselves. Thus it ever was.

Reply to  B Clarke
June 21, 2021 10:02 am

something else is going on that we are not being told.”
Perhaps the delegates refuse to get the jab because they know it isn’t safe. They certainly wouldn’t tell us that.

Warren
June 20, 2021 2:12 pm

Going well then . . .

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Warren
June 20, 2021 2:28 pm

First of all, the conference is absolutely going to take place, as the delegates from Azerbaijan thru to Zimbabwe are not about to miss their all expense paid luxury vacation in Scotland.

But what the “virtual climate negotiations” have revealed is that there is no possibility of any genuine agreement occurring there. They are developing their excuse for this failure in advance, so that they don’t need to interrupt any of the dinner parties trying to think one up.

cirby
Reply to  Robert Hanson
June 20, 2021 2:57 pm

It’s like the one they had in Cancun a decade or so back, where the weather turned unseasonably cool and cloudy at the start of the show.

All of the important people went home, leaving the pencil-pushers to make generic speeches for the rest of the week.

Rich Davis
Reply to  cirby
June 20, 2021 3:49 pm

I am SO hoping for unusually bitter cold and miserable rain. Oh wait, isn’t that the norm for November in Glasgow? I’m hoping for record low temperatures and power failures due to no wind.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
Reply to  Rich Davis
June 21, 2021 12:36 am

The public who are paying for this nonsense might helpfully insist that the conference should be powered and heated by energy from wind and solar. No evil gas or nuclear.
A public campaign in Scotland would be timely.

Adam Gallon
Reply to  cirby
June 20, 2021 11:25 pm

Glasgow in November!
Averages day/night temperatures of 9 & 5 Celsius & 16 days a month, of rain, with 2 hours of sunshine a day.
🤣
With a spot of luck, we’ll have another Copenhagen!

Saighdear
Reply to  Adam Gallon
June 21, 2021 1:55 am

if only….. but so long as the Gore effect remains in the Glasgow area or southwards. We are further north and meantime night time temps are falling to under 5C – Mid-Summer ! doesn’t do the fruit plants any good – coldest spring for a long time – worse than even last year: what does that tell us?

BCBill
Reply to  Robert Hanson
June 20, 2021 5:03 pm

All the jet set heads for Scotland in November. Water dripping off the end of your nose in the gloom is so de regueur.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Robert Hanson
June 22, 2021 1:36 am

By now these clowns should be aware that most of the rest of the world looks at them as parasites who only attend these COPs for the free food and booze. They should all be ashamed of themselves and decline invitations to attend if they are unable to produce any significant work. The most significant thing that could come out of Glasgow would be to announce that the Climate Emergency is over, we no longer have to worry about runaway warming!

Randle Dewees
June 20, 2021 2:21 pm

Web meetings and telcons. Europe and GB are early in the day, so naturally they schedule normal (for them) working hour meetings. Most everyone else has to get up really early (or stay up really late). I hated this, many 5AM telcons I had to get up at 3:30 in my day

B Clarke
Reply to  Randle Dewees
June 20, 2021 2:29 pm

I wouldn’t get up either, if I’d been promised a share of 100billion at the Paris agreement, only now to be told you can’t have it but we still need your support, thats called taking the pxxx were I come from.

Reply to  Randle Dewees
June 21, 2021 7:43 am

25 years ago I used to facilitate quarterly teleconference meetings of our company’s 8 plant managers across US, Mexico, So America, Europe and Australia. There were also many similar meetings of different technical groups.

No one ever missed a meeting.
One has to wonder about the competence of those confused by the logistics and timezones.

June 20, 2021 2:24 pm

“Developing nations are also concerned that a lack of vaccines high class call girls may limit their ability to take part in the Glasgow conference”

Derg
Reply to  Smart Rock
June 20, 2021 2:31 pm

I thought the US gave away their expiring vaccines…I guess nobody wants the old stuff. Maybe they should switch to a born on date 🤔

Newminster
Reply to  Smart Rock
June 21, 2021 7:28 am

They’ll be coming in on charter flights from Moscow!

markl
June 20, 2021 3:07 pm

Me thinks everyone is getting tired of the whole scam. Let’s see, everyone gets together and makes all kinds of virtue signaling promises/goals. No one meets the goals. No one. Then money is promised to some nations who otherwise wouldn’t give a crap about CC but have been convinced they are victims of prosperous nations. No money is handed out because what little was given is swallowed by the UN with no traces. So no money. 20+ years of the same thing and countries have bigger, more pressing, and real problems of their own and the sky hasn’t fallen.

Reply to  markl
June 20, 2021 4:27 pm

UN blather in June 1989 to now is over 30 years.

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Rory Forbes
Reply to  markl
June 20, 2021 4:35 pm

Well, one really impressive outcome from these international fun fests for bureaucrats has been; the UN has grown massively since Rio with an exponential growth in it’s sub agencies.

The weather, as you might expect, has remained changeable throughout, with absolutely no alteration and no new scientific breakthroughs indicating that the whole thing isn’t easily explained by natural variation.

Dave Fair
June 20, 2021 3:08 pm

The problem in a nutshell: Little countries demanding big bucks to go along with the big countries’ expensive virtue signaling. Big countries cannot guile their taxpayers to cough up the big bucks. Little countries cannot afford virtue signaling and won’t agree to big countries’ schemes. Gridlock.

Since it is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and small countries outnumber the large countries, the votes are not there to compel any action at the UN level. Even if they could somehow get consensus at the UN, the U.S. taxpayer won’t go along with big spending schemes that benefit others. That is why the powers-that-be are trying to brand the GND as a jobs program. That might work … up until the Senate Appropriations Committee has to start voting.

Douglas Pollock
June 20, 2021 3:20 pm

Again and as usual, the only agreement that will finally be reached at COP26 will be the place and date of COP27.

Scissor
Reply to  Douglas Pollock
June 20, 2021 4:08 pm

Jamaica in November 2022 might be nice, but they would gain a better appreciation of the value of fossil fuels if they were forced to camp out in some remote part of Siberia during that time.

Adam Gallon
Reply to  Scissor
June 20, 2021 11:31 pm

Africa’s turn, so we’ll see a Red Sea resort turned over to the party.

leitmotif
Reply to  Douglas Pollock
June 20, 2021 4:09 pm

November 2022 – Wuhan.

Scissor
Reply to  leitmotif
June 20, 2021 6:05 pm

I’ve been to Wuhan in November and it’s usually cool and dry around that time. Summers are brutally hot and humid, outside. Good Chinese food but if you’ve seen the Yellow Crane Tower once, that is enough.

RexAlan
Reply to  Douglas Pollock
June 20, 2021 4:21 pm

And after Glasgow in November I’m betting they will pick somewhere nice and warm.

Newminster
Reply to  RexAlan
June 21, 2021 7:30 am

After Glasgow in November everywhere is nice and warm! Believe me!

whiten
June 20, 2021 3:57 pm

All COP 26 delegates must be in a top notch COVID19 immunity,
fully properly vaccinated… as per the most basic safety requirement that must be met as required.

cheers

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  whiten
June 20, 2021 4:27 pm

Which the mRNA injections do not provide.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  whiten
June 20, 2021 4:40 pm

as per the most basic safety requirement that must be met as required.

Would that include full body condoms, to cover ALL (non virtual) conference eventualities?

Robert of Texas
June 20, 2021 4:02 pm

“there were issues with access for observers with China objecting to their presence at talks on transparency”

ROFL – Thanks, I needed a good laugh. This is the Chinese Government at it’s best!

CK_
June 20, 2021 4:35 pm

Here is a terrifying interview with Dr. Mike Yeadon (former Pfizer VP) in which he concludes that world govts are trying to depopulate/sterilize the world with the COVID vaccines. How else can you explain all of the lies/censorship by the govt/CDC/WHO/Mainstream Media/Big Tech?

PFIZER VP: “THE THING TO BE TERRIFIED OF IS YOUR GOVERNMENT” – The Highwire

Adam Gallon
Reply to  CK_
June 20, 2021 11:32 pm

Bollocks
You Yanks believe any shit.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Adam Gallon
June 20, 2021 11:40 pm

I don’t.

Reply to  CK_
June 21, 2021 11:16 am

What would be the purpose of doing that? Especially when you consider that the people not taking the vaccine tend to be the same people most likely to have both the will and the ability to fight back?

Seems counterproductive.

icisil
June 20, 2021 5:48 pm

Priceless.

Greta: “Since the climate crisis doesn’t exist, how can we expect people to want climate action.”

https://twitter.com/DaveNestor22/status/1406768654730018816

Ozonebust
June 20, 2021 5:51 pm

What they are finding is, that if your not in the same room with the people your trying to hype and raise the level of BS with, the pile wont get any higher, won’t stick anywhere, and ultimately oozes down around your boots, because there is no substance to hold it up.

According to the mission statement of delegates, the world is about to be destroyed in countless mega ways by CO2, (key BS point) and these left-tard, pampered, well payed tax funded misfits cant get even their collective spiel together.

Perhaps they are waiting for the updated book of superlatives that is due to be released, because they have used all the previous ones to the point of boredom. Phrases like MEGA DOOM, which will only appear in BOLD for extra emphasis in the written form, and said with a raised voice on TV.

These are the sales people without a product. They sell something that you have to pay for upfront, and installments, and will never be delivered. They sell fear for money. All they can do is wave the pamphlet vigorously, and scare people, mainly children so they get the next generation.

Maybe they could have BS fatigue, after all there is only so much BS one can offer in a lifetime.

Or, perhaps they are just stalling so they have to stay longer at the tax funded 5 star BS fest in the UK, trying to get a tangible stepping stone.

RobR
June 20, 2021 6:43 pm

At least in the USA we can count on Biden’s lackeys to unilaterally hamstring our carbon based economy for imperceptible reductions in global temperature.

Go team…..industries the world over are counting on you screwing the American worker for an illusion.

No nation lasts forever.

LdB
Reply to  RobR
June 21, 2021 2:33 am

You can rely on Biden for a number of gaffs, a few babbling incoherent sentences and some mindless ramblings.

Jeff Alberts
June 20, 2021 8:32 pm

a climate free cash negotiator from Bangladesh”

Fixed!

June 20, 2021 11:18 pm

The Devil in me hopes they do make it to Glasga…

They will certainly meet:

  1. That angry woman in the lead photo here, none of them as good looking tho. (Dunno if its the weather, the shyte food or the alcohol that causes that – but something does. Of course in these Moderne Tymes, it’s all the fault of ageing white males)
  2. Completely soul destroying and depressing weather/climate – something akin to what they’re hoping to (re) create? You know, how it all was in the Golden Pre-Industry Times?
  3. Legions of gas guzzling SUV vehicles, the driver of each and every one most assured & determinedly giving them: The Finger

Go Glasga Go, if any one place/thing can properly derail this thing and consign it to The Scrap Heap of History, you can.

(They know that already, hence the truly pathetic excuses for not wanting to go that we see here)

Nick Graves
Reply to  Peta of Newark
June 21, 2021 12:23 am

Don’t forget the Weegie who dragged a failed suicide bomber out of the car and gave him a good seeing-to.

Never mess with a Weegie!

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Peta of Newark
June 22, 2021 1:51 am

“…something akin to what they’re hoping to (re) create? You know, how it all was in the Golden Pre-Industry Times?”

If any of these clowns had any idea what the NH was like during the tail end of the Little Ice Age I doubt they would be so gungho to try and recreate it today. After the past two winters and late springs the reality should be starting to trickle through. Should winter 21-22 be as cold and snowy as 20-21 the penny may drop….

george1st:)
June 20, 2021 11:26 pm

Bit tricky to arrange time zones for zoom with no reward for staying up late .
But no problem to ‘ fix ‘ the climate with paid for overseas trips .
Other peoples money is easily spent and accepted .

ozspeaksup
June 21, 2021 3:19 am

3 weeks in a temp controlled office high pay and all mod cons for the majority
and the poor dears…are exhausted?
get a life in the REAL world!

Dave-E
June 21, 2021 6:32 am

So the dark cloud of Covid has the silver lining of slowing down the Climate Change scammers. That’s great! If only it were more targeted like a Plagues of Egypt for leftists.

Bruce Cobb
June 21, 2021 7:36 am

Oh noes!
You know they’re in trouble when even the low hanging fruits can’t be harvested. Something must be rotten in Denmark.

Patrick MJD
June 22, 2021 2:09 am

A made up problem impacting another made up problem? Well as long as the money keep flowing.