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Why is Linus complaining about the lack of T9 dialing? Who still uses it? Not even my parents are asking to switch from QWERTY to T9. 

1 minute ago, captain_to_fire said:

Why is Linus complaining about the lack of T9 dialing? Who still uses it? Not even my parents are asking to switch from QWERTY to T9. 

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point here, but he's not talking about T9 texting. T9 dialing is just a simplified way to find contacts using your keypad within your actual phone app.

11 minutes ago, captain_to_fire said:

Why is Linus complaining about the lack of T9 dialing? Who still uses it? Not even my parents are asking to switch from QWERTY to T9. 

as nick said, open your phone dialer, say you need to find a contact called "Linus", imagine you had to type "Linus" on a T9 dial pad, you would type 54687 = only you don't even have to type all the way through if your phone has a contact named "Linus", it's gonna show up as soon as you press 546..... and you don't have to open the contacts and find the contact named "Linus" every time. that is what he meant by T9 Dialing. 

9 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point here, but he's not talking about T9 texting. T9 dialing is just a simplified way to find contacts using your keypad within your actual phone app.

Oh my bad then. I think LG’s T9 dialing has that one where it searches for contacts as you type. 

1 hour ago, nicklmg said:

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Linus seems to be the worse customer ever to upset... because not only are they upset, they are also correct!

43 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point here, but he's not talking about T9 texting. T9 dialing is just a simplified way to find contacts using your keypad within your actual phone app.

Is it patented? XD

Ummm I won't ever buy a iPhone for one reason, I don't like tax. Every iPhone comes with a special tax called the Apple Tax, they might have some things better than Android but those things are usually minor for 99% of people. A good example is for Pokemon Go AR+ you can easily pickup a used S7 for $250 yet you can barely pick up a 6s for the same price...

12 minutes ago, TechyBen said:

Is it patented? XD

T9? Yes, but T9 is old tech used on older phones with buttons unless there is a newer version idk about. The people who own T9 tech are the same people who made Swype which was far more advanced than anything on the market till recently (which is why they pulled it), I still use it and guess what it still works better than the garbage Sammy hands out (not sure about googles tho).

3 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

Ummm I won't ever buy a iPhone for one reason, I don't like tax. Every iPhone comes with a special tax called the Apple Tax, they might have some things better than Android but those things are usually minor for 99% of people. A good example is for Pokemon Go AR+ you can easily pickup a used S7 for $250 yet you can barely pick up a 6s for the same price...

T9? Yes, but T9 is old tech used on older phones with buttons unless there is a newer version idk about. The people who own T9 tech are the same people who made Swype which was far more advanced than anything on the market till recently (which is why they pulled it), I still use it and guess what it still works better than the garbage Sammy hands out (not sure about googles tho).

You absolutely can. Literally one quick ebay search puts up thousands of iPhone 6s' at or below $250.

3 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

You absolutely can. Literally one quick ebay search puts up thousands of iPhone 6s' at or below $250.

I'm talking about Canadian bling not USD... In CAD the bare min is $250 free shipping or $200+ shipping from the USA and if they ship via FedEx or UPS you could get hit up with import fees... (CP hates it when you ship batteries, if they find out)

Just a FYI I refuse to buy anything with a publicly displayed IMEI number. Plus I rather buy from a local seller (like in Toronto) where if they sell one with a banned IMEI number it won't kill me in shipping costs.

2 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

I'm talking about Canadian bling not USD... In CAD the bare min is $250 free shipping or $200+ shipping from the USA and if they ship via FedEx or UPS you could get hit up with import fees... (CP hates it when you ship batteries, if they find out)

 

Just a FYI I refuse to buy anything with a publicly displayed IMEI number. Plus I rather buy from a local seller (like in Toronto) where if they sell one with a banned IMEI number it won't kill me in shipping costs.

Just checked through Canadian. Good amount at 220 canadian with free international shipping. I don't know about the import fees but at least up front it is below 250. And what's wrong with a publicly displayed IMEI? That allows you to check for black listing on your own.

4 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Just checked through Canadian. Good amount at 220 canadian with free international shipping. I don't know about the import fees but at least up front it is below 250. And what's wrong with a publicly displayed IMEI? That allows you to check for black listing on your own.

It also allows false reports. If they claim a clean IMEI number you buy it then request the number before payment, this way you have communication with them plus proof if the iMEI does not match the phone.

The problem is the unknown once it is shipped, you could ask who they are shipping it with but that takes time. Plus buying locally you can have the phone in 3 or less days, USA always tends to take up to a week or longer, esp longer if it gets held up ion customs...

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[Android fanboys conveniently ignore] that there's been no single device that ties all the features together

On the other hand, the Lumia 950 XL is still a perfectly usable device today that ties the features (face unlock, phablet size, solid design, minimal bezel for the time, even replaceable backs and a replaceable battery, plus phone-to-screen bridging) together and had a pretty great camera (Nokia really lost when they sold ClearView, tbh) and post-shot configuration (HDR mode and such were amazing).

Damn shame, honestly: I spent a year on a Lumia 650 and left it when I handed it down to my father, who had run his 920 into the ground. Some of that is back with the Nokia 3/6/7 now.

I agree, however, with the notch sentiment: I do hope the design language shifts away from that. I have larger,beefy hands and actually don't like the race to the highest screen:body ratio possible. I like having something I can hold and not cause a touch event happen for no other reason than holding my device.

13 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

It also allows false reports. If they claim a clean IMEI number you buy it then request the number before payment, this way you have communication with them plus proof if the iMEI does not match the phone.

 

The problem is the unknown once it is shipped, you could ask who they are shipping it with but that takes time. Plus buying locally you can have the phone in 3 or less days, USA always tends to take up to a week or longer, esp longer if it gets held up ion customs...

That's not really going to gain anyone anything. Ebay protection can absolutly fuck up a seller for having that kind of thing happen. Unless someone is trolling that should never happen.

4 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

That's not really going to gain anyone anything. Ebay protection can absolutly fuck up a seller for having that kind of thing happen. Unless someone is trolling that should never happen.

True, but they just publicly announced the IMEI to the world. The person who wanted to buy say the one you just did really wanted it because it was the last one of its color (unlikely) in their price point(just as much so), they could do the false report. Don't trust the internet, plus some random joe could just do it for the lols...

Plus there is items like this S7 local and cheap:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-32GB-G930V-GSM-Unlocked-4G-LTE-Smartphone-12MP-FREE-SHIPPING/223191271153?hash=item33f73c86f1:m:m4tVh_-EsHTMdTzGHa6170Q&var=521993141361

Plus the 6s has nearly half the battery size, idk if it will last the same time as the S7 or even my Stylo for that matter... I don't see much of the way of iPhones that old playing PoGo on community days...

I feel like there are a lot of contradictions in the complaints that Linus has with cell phones lately. He seems to think that Xs max is both to small and then complains that it is too big. He hates the notch but then it complains that the bezels are to big. He says the pixel 3 looks really old because of the "massive forehead and chin bars" and hates on phones that have notches.

I am just not sure if its possible to make a phone that Linus seems to indicate that he is looking for.

9 minutes ago, darwin006 said:

I feel like there are a lot of contradictions in the complaints that Linus has with cell phones lately. He seems to think that Xs max is both to small and then complains that it is too big. He hates the notch but then it complains that the bezels are to big. He says the pixel 3 looks really old because of the "massive forehead and chin bars" and hates on phones that have notches.

 

I am just not sure if its possible to make a phone that Linus seems to indicate that he is looking for.

What I don't understand is why is everyone defending the top tier phones... If we compare top tier phones like we do with CPUs (the recent issue with the new i9) Linus would never recommend a top tier $1000+ phone based on value per $, well never a Apple one at least...

2 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

What I don't understand is why is everyone defending the top tier phones... If we compare top tier phones like we do with CPUs (the recent issue with the new i9) Linus would never recommend a top tier $1000+ phone based on value per $, well never a Apple one at least...

I get why people hate on Apple and I think a lot it is justified. (I currently an using a iphone 5s) But for me I went with Apple because I knew that it would still be receiving security updates years after Apple released it, Apple was able to keep the bloatware off it that the cellphone carries install on all the android phones, and its a flag ship quality phone that I can use with one hand.

I dont really know that all the reviewers have always recommended the top tier phones. As I recall, last year most people where recommending iphone 8 over the X. And I believe I have seen some people recommend the iphone XR this year.

35 minutes ago, darwin006 said:

I feel like there are a lot of contradictions in the complaints that Linus has with cell phones lately. He seems to think that Xs max is both to small and then complains that it is too big. He hates the notch but then it complains that the bezels are to big. He says the pixel 3 looks really old because of the "massive forehead and chin bars" and hates on phones that have notches.

 

I am just not sure if its possible to make a phone that Linus seems to indicate that he is looking for.

I don't see the contradictions here.

I never said the Xs Max is too small. And the only reason I said it's too big is the SOFTWARE. With a back gesture/button that can be comfortably accessed, it would be fine.

I hate the iPhone, and the thicker bezels look very last gen. I've been consistent about this across multiple devices.

The Pixel 3's big forehead and chin DO make it look old.

I am not a notch fan.

The Note 9 has thin bezels, stereo sound, a headphone jack, and no notch.

19 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

What I don't understand is why is everyone defending the top tier phones... If we compare top tier phones like we do with CPUs (the recent issue with the new i9) Linus would never recommend a top tier $1000+ phone based on value per $, well never a Apple one at least...

At that price point, you are really paying for “niceness” for an iOS device. If you gauge an iPhone based solely on “spec per dollar”, then of course it’s going to lose every time. 

What you are getting are the more intangible benefits. From better build quality, to long-term software support, to access to the Apple ecosystem, to Apple’s vision of what a mobile computing device ought to look like. I can’t quantify these benefits, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist, and the important point is that enough people care about them that they are willing to pay a premium for them. 

People don’t choose what product to use based solely on price and specs. This is what happens when you try applying a “build your own PC” mentality to a company like Apple. When you aren’t willing to take the effort to properly understand how a company like Apple thinks and works, then of course you will get them wrong every single time. And then you wonder why they continue to be so so very successful year after year in spite of all the criticism lumped on them. 

The most interesting part of this video was that is on the 18:9 ratio. Looks great on my oneplus 6.

I think Linus makes some interesting points here, it is a very minor improvement over the iPhoneX and the Samsung Note 9 has all the features with few compromises. I guess that's why he started that thread to see why iPhone users bought an iPhone and what their reasoning was.

In the video, Linus brought up how the Samsung software support length is what Samsung needed to address. For me, that's still what pushes me to the iPhone. I also found it really intriguing how he pointed at that Apple had the head-start on design as well as digital assistant technologies. But through a lack of innovation, they have allowed their competitors to catch up and surpass them. Honestly, I'd much prefer the design/infinity display of the Galaxy Note 9 or S9 over the smaller iPhone X notch design. But for me, I know through software updates my iPhone keeps feeling fresh and that Apple squeeze out as much life out of each device as is possible. So for me, I know my iPhone is going to last me longer and that's still very important to me.

I agree with the UI and App arrangement argument. Basically, since the original iPhone they haven't changed the way apps flow on the home screen and being able to move them anywhere on the screen would be a welcome change. It's ironic that on MacOS Apple give you this freedom when organising documents to move them anyway and are not locked to a sequential grid but it's not a thing on iOS devices.

Really enjoyable video overall.

Typical Apple haters with the same useless comments "Apple died when Steve Jobs did" yet if he was still alive we wouldn't have any devices in the phablet size. If Apple is so shit after his death why is Apple now the most valued company in the world?

Why do you still many iPhones, Apple Watches & AirPods all in the wild? Must be because people are idiots and will buy Apple because so they show off. While haters and their PC is all RBG, water-cooled for looks & running the latest 9900K for that extra 5 fps.

When you buy an "expensive" Apple product you get in return

• Something that will hold its value much better compared to Android/Window product. You're $1,500 iPhone will still be sold at $1,500 a few months later, resale value: $1,300. Yes there maybe retailer promos or discount but they will still maintain a premium price. Your Android? $1,000 few months later: $800 then your resale? $500
   
• Unmatched product support. Got a defect or issue? Apple Store face to face no bullshit(here in Australia) and your product will be back in your hands on that day or a few days turn out. Rest of the market will have to get their phone shipped off to some repair HQ... fun.
   
• A premium device that is well built and does arguably looks really nice.

People with their Moto G5 or their Nokia 7 will be like oh but my does those too but only cost 500 blah blah, Just like how a Toyota Corolla does but you're not going to shit on others when they are driving a BMW when they do the exact same thing

43 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

I don't see the contradictions here.

 

I never said the Xs Max is too small. And the only reason I said it's too big is the SOFTWARE. With a back gesture/button that can be comfortably accessed, it would be fine.

 

I hate the iPhone, and the thicker bezels look very last gen. I've been consistent about this across multiple devices.

 

The Pixel 3's big forehead and chin DO make it look old.

 

I am not a notch fan.

 

The Note 9 has thin bezels, stereo sound, a headphone jack, and no notch.

I can understand somewhat the dislike for the notch, although I've never found it an issues after about a week or two of use, the iPhone Xs Max still has one of the highest screen to body ratio's out there. Higher than even the Note 9. The iPhone Xs also has stereo sound and stereo recording so I fail to understand that point unless you find the quality of the sound to be poor. If your point is that it DOESN'T have stereo sound, all iPhone's since the iPhone 7 has had some level of stereo sound.

34 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

I don't see the contradictions here.

 

I never said the Xs Max is too small. And the only reason I said it's too big is the SOFTWARE. With a back gesture/button that can be comfortably accessed, it would be fine.

 

I hate the iPhone, and the thicker bezels look very last gen. I've been consistent about this across multiple devices.

 

The Pixel 3's big forehead and chin DO make it look old.

 

I am not a notch fan.

 

The Note 9 has thin bezels, stereo sound, a headphone jack, and no notch.

I guess that I got the impression (and was mistaken) that you wanted a bigger phone that the Xs max because of the comment that you made, that you thought there should have been a X max. And guess we will have to agree to disagree about the size of bezels on the iphone and the size of the forehead and chin on the Pixel 3.