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Titanfall's A.I Bots Aren't Inherently a Problem, But Their Lack of Challenge Is

Matthew Byrd writes: If the RPG aspects of Titanfall were more fleshed out than some basic challenges and unlockable perks, I could perhaps understand keeping the bots in the way they are. As it stands, though, the only real in-game benefit to them is that they allow the player to summon their Titan faster, and achieve challenges somewhat more efficiently. This is in opposition to games like League of Legends, where managing your time spent battling A.I enemies in order to level yourself up, is a crucial strategic aspect.

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Fireseed4065d ago

Yeah the bots are actually a really great addition, because the feeling of getting a Titanfall and wiping out a group of soldiers with one quad rocket blast is GREAT! However their inability to put up much of a challenge when on foot is unappealing.

I say they should have a basic ranking system and scale the bots according to your rank.

Debaitable4065d ago

Or just have more human players?

Fireseed4065d ago

Quick question... have you played it?

Denton564065d ago

The thing about that is that there are certain elements of the game's balance (especially the number of titans on the battlefield) that work better without more human players.

Debaitable4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

@fireseed

No, but there are plenty of videos that show A.I. blankly just staring at you when you come across them. Am I going to buy it? Well yes I am. Still disappointed. They could have just increased the player a count just a bit more so you encounter more human players than A.I..

I don't think anyone would enjoy BF4 with %60 of the 64man server being bots.

Fireseed4065d ago

@Debaitable

Ok, thought so. Because Anyone who's played knows what an absolute NIGHTMARE it would be if their were more than 6 titans on one team at once. If they wanted to increase player count, then player power would have to be DRAMATICALLY nerfed and that's just not a lot of fun. As I said the game needs a ranking system at all times and scale the bots based on your matches average rank.

Godmars2904065d ago

"Quick question... have you played it?"

I once took out at least half a dozen players with an artillery strike in Warhawk while they tried to retake their flag.

Best feels ever...

Allsystemgamer4065d ago

You haven't played it. More human players would just make things way to crazy. There's enough human players. Usually get about 15 - 20 human kills in a match of attrition or TDMwhich lasts about 5-10 minutes.

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3-4-54065d ago

Allow 8v8 Humans but only 6 Titans can be active on a team at a time, that way it's not 16 Titans running around or whatever.

Veneno4065d ago

Don't ever be a game designer.

Fireseed4065d ago

Yeah cause getting a killstreak like the AC 130 in CoD and then being told you cannot use it because other players already were was a GREAT feeling.... >_>

princejb1344065d ago

If they don't want to add more human players that's fine
But at least also remove the a.i. So it makes it more difficult to get the titans

Allsystemgamer4065d ago

The titans aren't supposed to be difficult to get. They're also just as easy to get away from as a pilot and equally easy to take out.

AngelicIceDiamond4065d ago

The bots aren't super annoying and the 6v6 surprisingly works but if they can up the player count to at least 8v8 then the bots won't be much of an annoyance.

2 more players and it'll be perfect.

ArmyOfNone4065d ago

It gets pretty chaotic with 6v6, so I would hate to imagine what 8v8 feels like. (Keep in mind that Titans can be companions as well which further ups player count)

Ace Killa 084065d ago

Saying its a nightmare with more than 12 players is unacceptable. Yes CURRENTLY it will be a nightmare, however Respawn could have adjusted for more players. IMO the map not named Angel city, I forget, has a lot of open space that two more titans can fit maybe four. The guys knew that the game will be empty with 6 on 6 so they just plucked in the AI.

I honestly don't know what they are for, for points or to be a challenge in the field. Either of which blows, IMO. They don't do anything good other than to bait players and rack up score. Had an attrition match a few minutes ago and we won by not breaking 10 pilot kills. 6 guys won't by not breaking 10 kills but grunts were over 40 or 50.

Prototype_79L4065d ago

The AI s purely for the NOOBs, who cant get to kill human players so they also have some satisfaction. But the AI is ridiculously LOW, they represent no challenge at all. Yet again licking the casual players butt ruins a game.

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ZAF4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

I think the bots are fine as they are, increasing the AI would make the game harder for people to get into as players would die alot more against Bots, making people to ragequit the game.

Bots are just there to make the game feel like a real battlezone and give some satisfaction to the players.

Debaitable4065d ago

THEY DON'T EVEN SHOOT AT YOU!!!!

ZAF4065d ago

Actually they do, they even kick you if you get to close, i already tested this

They even throw rockets at Titans

Galletto34065d ago

They shoot at Titans most of the time, or when they do shoot at you on foot, they are super inaccurate

Number-Nine4065d ago

I don't understand the hype for this game

Ace Killa 084065d ago

I did played today and maxed out the level cap and feel disappointed. The game is good not great. Nor do I see myself playing this more than two months. Hopefully there's more game modes when it releases and hopefully they are more entertaining.

likeaboss3024065d ago

After playing the beta a good bit this weekend I wish the bots were more challenging. They could at least be somewhat of a threat on foot.

TotalSynthesisX4065d ago

I agree. Finding a group of three or four of them and wiping them out without a second thought--or magazine, for that matter--isn't as fun as it sounds. They're barely even cannon fodder. They're more or less just distractions.

PsylentKiller4065d ago

Can you wipe out three or for of them while a human enemy is in the room?
I'm not trying to be a douche, but if the a.i. difficulty was increased you would expend more ammo and time on bots and then be more vulnerable to human enemies.
It's one attrition point for bots, four for humans, and six for titans. Maybe if they messed around with the attrition points, they could make it a bit better for some. Bots aren't a problem on last Titan standing or even hardpoint.

The only time bots being stupid is a problem is when their deaths affect the outcome of the game like in attrition. They also help you get your Titan faster and charge your core faster but that's not really a game breaker. People love MOBA games and that's what minions are for. To collect more gold, to buy things quicker. Even if you get a Titan quick, they aren't indestructible. I take down titans all the time as a pilot. It's a David vs Goliath match up. You just gotta be faster and smarter than the Titan.

Sorry, for the long post but I can't help but get the feeling that people don't understand the game. They say they do but they don't act like they do. If you genuinely don't like the game, that's fine. I really like it and that's what counts for me. I just would like people to give it a chance and don't jump to conclusions. When you love something, you want to share it with the world. When you don't like something, you want to warn others. I think that's what everyone is trying to do here but few want to keep an open mind.

I'm done now

Thanks for listening to my rant. Lol

TotalSynthesisX4065d ago

@PsylentKiller

No, I know what you mean. But yeah, I've played the game and I enjoy it immensely. I was stating that the only problem I have with the game is that the AI is depressingly bad. I just think that the game would be more enjoyable if the AI's awareness, intelligence and offensive capability were amped a bit. Just enough so they pose *some* sort of challenge.

likeaboss3024064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

@psylentkiller

I like the game a lot but would like a little more challenge from them. I'm not asking for brutal AI but just something that puts up more of a fight. It's ridiculously easy at the moment.

beerzombie4065d ago

don't shoot bots! shoot humans!

ArmyOfNone4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

The bots serve their purpose. The bots AI is fine. Respect the developers VISION.

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IanTH7d ago

Sadly just if you subscribe to Luna it appears. I hooked my EA account into it, which has Jedi Survivor, and it doesn't show in my Library. They don't show as a source either, so just a heads up to not let your purchasing decision be swayed as to where you pick the titles up if a bonus streaming option held any interest.

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