The surgery.

A lot of you don't remember the old me. I wasn't always who I now am. Sure, I was never unintelligent. But I remember everything before the surgery. I was not this intelligent before. When I woke up everything seemed different. People seemed to move and speak more slowly, Time even seemed to move more slowly. I've touched on this issue before. But I still don't have answers.

In 2014, I had an accident that required surgery. It was my fault. I was mowing the lawn and there were so many people there, something caught my attention and I ran over my foot with the mower. I can't even go into description how bad it was. I almost lost my foot. But, While we were worrying if I was going to lose my foot, I met this surgeon, His name was, believe it or not, Dr. Jim Morrison, There was something about him.
I've met a lot of people in my life. But the vibes that came from this man, It's hard to explain. It was like this incredible positive energy just oozed from the man's very presence. It was not normal by any means. It was so strong you could tell if the man walked into the room even if your eyes were shut. I told him before the surgery. I was afraid to be put to sleep. That I had never been under before and I was afraid I wouldn't wake up or even worse it could damage my mind. He promised me that not only was he going to save my foot. But that the anesthesia if anything would give me a good rest, and I'd wake up feeling better then ever.



To be honest. I can't say I feel better than ever. But people move more slowly. Hours seem much longer than before, at least three to four times longer. At first, I thought this was a side effect of being put to sleep. But it's been years now. People still speak slowly and time hasn't gotten any faster. I feel like a different person entirely. But that's not everything. No. I feel Like a better person than I was. The Anger which was a dominant trait is now only present when I am legitimately pushed over the edge. It's been replaced with a willingness to identify with people and even help them.

Sure people change. But I woke up from surgery changed. And while It has it's advantages. And I feel like a better person. Mentally and ironically. I don't feel as alert as I was before. It honestly feels like I can not fully wake. And to be honest. I think something inside me went to sleep and never woke up. Whatever it was. It was for the best. I am a happier person. A better person. Just like Dr. Morrison promised.

I bring this up because, I'm still curious. Have there ever been recorded cases of anesthesia dramatically changing someone's personality before?

SP.

I have been through 5 procedures where I was completely put to sleep. Everything seems the same afterwards. But it is an interesting experience. The fact that it works so fast... Wow.

Kchoo said:

I have been through 5 procedures where I was completely put to sleep. Everything seems the same afterwards. But it is an interesting experience. The fact that it works so fast... Wow.

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Actually, you've known me for a while Kchoo, You didn't notice a change in me? I have a lot of questions. And I think it centers around that surgery. :/

I think you are about the same....
Perhaps happy to be alive... More appreciative of the now...
???

Kchoo said:

I think you are about the same....
Perhaps happy to be alive... More appreciative of the now...
???

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Well, I am a happier person, But, no, Things have changed mentally. :/ I'm not the same person in there anymore. But oh well, This was mostly just a conversation topic.
It's a well-known fact that for years I've been trying to push out the negative and change. Maybe the change was simply the result of all the effort I put into bettering myself. But that doesn't explain why time seems to be different, Oh well, some questions really don't have answers I suppose.

Shadowprophet said:

Well, I am a happier person, But, no, Things have changed mentally. :/ I'm not the same person in there anymore. But oh well, This was mostly just a conversation topic.
It's a well-known fact that for years I've been trying to push out the negative and change. Maybe the change was simply the result of all the effort I put into bettering myself. But that doesn't explain why time seems to be different, Oh well, some questions really don't have answers I suppose.

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Interesting stuff. Einstien would love you... Bhhaha.

Almost as better as a Stephen King's novel ...

"When we think of time, we think of clock time. Let's call this kind of time "objective", however, we know from personal experience that time does not "feel"as passing evenly under different circumstances. We know from sleep studies that during dreaming periods time dilation occurs. We also know that under hypnosis time dilation can take place and can easily be noticed. Studies on such mind-affecting drugs as cannabis, LSD, etc., indicate that time distortions occur. Clearly, what happens is that we somehow have more subjective time, and we can observe the act of speech in greater detail. Have our mental processes been speeded up or do we simply have more time in which to observe an event?

This was first made clear in the theory of relativity, in which it was shown that two observers moving relative to each other do not agree on the rates at which their respective clocks are running. We find that the connecting link is an altered state of consciousness. I suggest that during altered states of consciousness our subjective time-space coordinates separate from the objective coordinates and rotate about the common center.

Let us return to the person under the influence of a mind-affecting drug who is listening to someone speak. Suppose that the speaker utters one word per second. The person under the influence of the drug and presumably in an altered state of consciousness will have more subjective time to listen to the word and will therefore be in a better position to analyze the word because his mental processes are operating at the normal objective rate.

From all the above it follows that we may describe a person's level of consciousness by the ratio of his subjective time to his objective time. The range of these ratios is very broad. It starts with small differences, which normally would be taken for just a "wandering of attention", to hypnotic time dilation, to dreaming, which is clearly an altered state of consciousness. And, finally, to a deep meditative state, in which time is "stopped" or almost "stopped.

We have not up to this point focused on what is happening to our subjective space coordinate, which rotates together with the subjective time coordinate. As the subjective time stretches, so does the "observer" expand into his subjective space. After "tunneling" from our timelike to the spacelike dimension, our space axis approaches the objective time axis. This carries with it some startling consequences. Our timelike subjective space is becoming objective time. This means that our "observer," as he travels in what he considers his space, is actually moving through his own and other people's objective time either into the past or into the future. This may perhaps explain the mechanism by which clairvoyants operate*."
Itzhak Bentov "Stalking The Wild Pendulum"

*Empathy

Could they have done something supernatural while you were under. Was your foot miraculously healed after the procedure? Could they have used some kind of scalar technology? I remember you complaining about your foot a couple of years ago.

Kchoo said:

Interesting stuff. Einstien would love you... Bhhaha.

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I do Consider Einstien a hero of mine. I have spent years reading his theories and papers just trying to understand them, Any similarities between myself and Einstein are simply due to hero worship bro lol

Toroid said:

Could they have done something supernatural while you were under. Was your foot miraculously healed after the procedure? Could they have used some kind of scalar technology? I remember you complaining about your foot a couple of years ago.

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Well, I mean, I've suspected that whatever it was could have been some kind of supernatural thing. It doesn't seem like a government experimentation kind of thing in my eyes.
I'm not Trying to project on to Dr. Morrison, But I have reasoned, He was a gifted healer, and possibly healed something in me that was broken that no one else could have, I know that sounds silly.

Dronecaller said:

Almost as better as a Stephen King's novel ...

"When we think of time, we think of clock time. Let's call this kind of time "objective", however, we know from personal experience that time does not "feel"as passing evenly under different circumstances. We know from sleep studies that during dreaming periods time dilation occurs. We also know that under hypnosis time dilation can take place and can easily be noticed. Studies on such mind-affecting drugs as cannabis, LSD, etc., indicate that time distortions occur. Clearly, what happens is that we somehow have more subjective time, and we can observe the act of speech in greater detail. Have our mental processes been speeded up or do we simply have more time in which to observe an event?

This was first made clear in the theory of relativity, in which it was shown that two observers moving relative to each other do not agree on the rates at which their respective clocks are running. We find that the connecting link is an altered state of consciousness. I suggest that during altered states of consciousness our subjective time-space coordinates separate from the objective coordinates and rotate about the common center.

Let us return to the person under the influence of a mind-affecting drug who is listening to someone speak. Suppose that the speaker utters one word per second. The person under the influence of the drug and presumably in an altered state of consciousness will have more subjective time to listen to the word and will therefore be in a better position to analyze the word because his mental processes are operating at the normal objective rate.

From all the above it follows that we may describe a person's level of consciousness by the ratio of his subjective time to his objective time. The range of these ratios is very broad. It starts with small differences, which normally would be taken for just a "wandering of attention", to hypnotic time dilation, to dreaming, which is clearly an altered state of consciousness. And, finally, to a deep meditative state, in which time is "stopped" or almost "stopped.

We have not up to this point focused on what is happening to our subjective space coordinate, which rotates together with the subjective time coordinate. As the subjective time stretches, so does the "observer" expand into his subjective space. After "tunneling" from our timelike to the spacelike dimension, our space axis approaches the objective time axis. This carries with it some startling consequences. Our timelike subjective space is becoming objective time. This means that our "observer," as he travels in what he considers his space, is actually moving through his own and other people's objective time either into the past or into the future. This may perhaps explain the mechanism by which clairvoyants operate*."
Itzhak Bentov "Stalking The Wild Pendulum"

*Empathy

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You make an incredible Point Bro, With time being relative, It becomes subjective. Perhaps by some kind of anomaly or abnormailty. My own preception of time was altered?

I had a series of operations when i was 8 and was put under deeply and they had a hard time with me i flat-lined almost 4 minutes and i had to be resuscitated this happen 3-4 times. and came out being to aware of everything, almost like i was given some of the clair abilities. Its been a real pain in the ... only lately have i embraced them instead of shunning them in disbelief.

coubob said:

I had a series of operations when i was 8 and was put under deeply and they had a hard time with me i flat-lined almost 4 minutes and i had to be resuscitated this happen 3-4 times. and came out being to aware of everything, almost like i was given some of the clair abilities. Its been a real pain in the ... only lately have i embraced them instead of shunning them in disbelief.

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Ahh this was the kind of info I was looking for, Quick, Question, Does time seem to flow roughly at the same speed for you as it did before the surgeries?

Shadowprophet said:

Does time seem to flow roughly at the same speed for you as it did before the surgeries?

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Faster,i used to be so worried about time back than and never gave that much thought till this.

coubob said:

Faster,i used to be so worried about time back than and never gave that much thought till this.

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That happened to my Aunt once during surgery. They claim for unknown reasons the anesthesia effects some people more profoundly than others
I have this theory. I could be wrong, But I believe when a person is put to sleep under anesthesia whatever part of the brain that tracks the passage of time, a part of the brain that normally never sleeps is put to sleep in those rare situations. I would love to find research papers on psychological studies of people both before and after deep sleep anesthesia.

I think people are just on different frequencies... you may have always had a faster clock... you just notice it differently since the surgery. Since you are actually processing faster, time seeems slower.

My wife is on a higher time frequency than me. She is tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. She has a fast heart rate.

I am more like Ka-woom... Ka-wooom... It does seem like My days go by very quickly.

Kchoo said:

I think people are just on different frequencies... you may have always had a faster clock... you just notice it differently since the surgery. Since you are actually processing faster, time seeems slower.

My wife is on a higher time frequency than me. She is tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. She has a fast heart rate.

I am more like Ka-woom... Ka-wooom... It does seem like My days go by very quickly.

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It would seem then the perception of time would be relative and subjective to the individual as well, That actually makes pretty solid sense bro.

I can get my heart rate as high as 160 beats per minute with exercise... But. I cant wait to finish the last lap.... And time definately seems to slow down... Haha.

I had surgery done 3 or 4 years back, and I definitely felt much different upon waking up from the anesthesia.. One major thing was my legs didn't work. I was laying in the hospital bed a few hours after the surgery, and upon waking up the doctor eventually came in and told me it should be normal and go away within the next couple of hours. I struggled to cling to things to get to the bathroom, but eventually the feeling somewhat came back, to a degree. But to this day, my legs are much weaker and less stable than before the surgery, I lose footing much easier than I ever did before. Mentally, most things remained the same, except my headaches seemed to have escalated in frequency and intensity, and sometimes my mind gets foggy and I lose complete track of time, however this was worse before, closer to the surgery, not as much now.

starsfall said:

I had surgery done 3 or 4 years back, and I definitely felt much different upon waking up from the anesthesia.. One major thing was my legs didn't work. I was laying in the hospital bed a few hours after the surgery, and upon waking up the doctor eventually came in and told me it should be normal and go away within the next couple of hours. I struggled to cling to things to get to the bathroom, but eventually the feeling somewhat came back, to a degree. But to this day, my legs are much weaker and less stable than before the surgery, I lose footing much easier than I ever did before. Mentally, most things remained the same, except my headaches seemed to have escalated in frequency and intensity, and sometimes my mind gets foggy and I lose complete track of time, however this was worse before, closer to the surgery, not as much now.

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I remember brief moments of waking up after my surgery, The first was when I woke up in the darker room with the attendant there. I wasn't fully awake and feel asleep almost immediately after that. The next time I woke up. I was in my Room, That was when I noticed I perceived things differently. I mean, It's possible that what happened was just some sort of unknown event that had to do with me being put under for the first time in my life.

It's interesting to hear stories of how the anesthesia seems to alter people's perception of time, And the more I hear about it. I'm convinced that some part of the brain that perceives the passage of time is somehow affected. But it seems to be Random at how it affects people. This is good. This gives me a broader understanding to work with, I appreciate your input on this Starsfall, Thank you very much