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Tjgoa

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Hey guys, I'm new to vaping and really like the idea behind it. It seems a lot healthier than regular cigarettes. I would like to quite smoking cigarettes. I switched to virginia super slims which have .4 mg of nicotine and .5 mg of tar so I would like a similar amount of nicotine when vaping. The most important factor is how harsh e cigs are. I tried a vuse e cigarette I bought at walmart for 15 bucks and it was WAY TOO harsh. I couldn't even take a single hit.

Can someone recommend an ecigarrete that is not harsh. Taste is not a concern, only not so freaking harsh on the lungs and with a very low nicotine amount per hit. It is also important to control my blood sugar levels, so low nictone is vital.

I think I can buy a voltage/wattage variable ecig and/or a temperature control e cig to control the harshness, along with a liquid that would have low nicotine content. Can anyone expand on this or clarify a few things? Thanks.
 

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I can't advise you on the nicotine but I wouldn't try a Temp Control mod til you have some more experience. Think of it like a swimming pool. TC is like abandoning ship. In a storm. And you can't swim. Learn to swim first. I'd definitely try a VW/VV mod like a iStick 20w or 30w. Stay away from mods that require separate batteries til you've some experience. You'll then likely find your niche or want to expand to subohm.
 
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Welcome aboard. Hopefully we can get you all sorted out with something that will work to help get you off the "yuckies"

My go to response when there is a problem with the vape being too harsh is to increase the percentage of VG in the mix. Most people find that VG is smoother with less "throat hit"(harshness). However, VG is thicker and doesnt wick as easily as PG in a prefabricated atomizer. Nicotine content can also contribute to harshness. The more nic in the mix the more throat hit and the vape is harsher(I find).

As for mods, I would agree that for the time being mods with replaceable batteries are not necessary and for your purposes TC might help a bit or it could make your switch that much more confusing as there is yet another variable in the mix. That said, there isnt really anything wrong with picking up a 40W TC mod with a built in battery(something like the iStick 40W) and an Aspire Nautilus tank. The tank is a decent beginners tank and the mod would give you room to grow into your mod and experiment with TC and sub ohming later on.
 
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Thanks guys! I will take your recommendations and not go for temperature control or replaceable battery but get a VW/VV ecig. I think I will go the safest route and just get an iStick 20W. That said, if I did get an iStick 40W, and it is VW/VV, would that mean I can set it 20W? I am ready to buy right now, so once I narrow down between the two, I'll make a purchase. Where do you guys order from, preferably in US?

Also, the Aspire Nautilus tank, is that something I will need to buy regardless of buying and iStick 20W? I will also get the Vegetable Glycerol Darth Omerta mentioned. Once I buy the liquid, I would use the Aspire Nautilus tank with that, is this right?

I need to buy three things then, an A iStick, a tank of some kind, and some eliquid, is this also right?
 
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Actually the VG(Vegetable Glycerin) is already in the eliquid. You can often find various concentrations of VG and PG but they are usually both present in some form or another in every liquid available for sale.

You will need a tank regardless of which mod you buy. I recommend the Nautilus because its easy to use and has good flavor and decent airflow options.

I would recommend the 40W TC if you are planning to get the iStick. You can use it at any wattage you like between 5W(I think) and 40W. The reason I suggest that mod is that if you do decide to try TC later on, then you dont have to upgrade your mod as well, just a new tank. Same applies for sub ohm tanks, you will have the room to grow with a 40W TC mod, with a 20W iStick your room for expansion is very limited.
 

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I almost forgot....

The three things you listed are the bare essentials for starting to vape, however, it is highly recommended to have a backup of both a spare tank and a spare mod. They dont always have to be the exact same as your main setup but should function relatively as well as your main setup(going with the same exact setup would be easy though). This gives you a spare for when your main setup is charging, or if something happens with your main setup you are already set with a backup and dont have to wait for another.
 

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Awesome. I will grab the 40W TC iStick. I find it here, is this a good place to order?

vaporauthority.com/products/genuine-eleaf-ismoka-istick-tc40w-temp-control-box-mod-kit (select url, right click then go)

Other recommendations?

I'm having difficulty finding an aspire nautilus tank though. I search the above site and lots of stuff comes up I have no idea what they are? Can someone narrow it down from the search results here: vaporauthority.com/search?q=Aspire+Nautilus+tank (select url, right click then go -- sorry, can't post urls yet)

And one final question, i hope, do I adjust the inter mixture of nicotine and VG using the nautilus or the iStick?
 

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Awesome. I will grab the 40W TC iStick. I find it here, is this a good place to order?

vaporauthority.com/products/genuine-eleaf-ismoka-istick-tc40w-temp-control-box-mod-kit (select url, right click then go)

Other recommendations?

I'm having difficulty finding an aspire nautilus tank though. I search the above site and lots of stuff comes up I have no idea what they are? Can someone narrow it down from the search results here: vaporauthority.com/search?q=Aspire+Nautilus+tank (select url, right click then go -- sorry, can't post urls yet)

And one final question, i hope, do I adjust the inter mixture of nicotine and VG using the nautilus or the iStick?


Here is a good site to buy from. Use the discount code turkey for 30% off the list price.

I looked for the istick 40's but oos.
Here is an alternative to grow with.

Eleaf Istick Pico Plus Melo 3 Mini Full Kit - $44.00 : Rocky Mountain Vapor, The Mountain top of Electronic Cigarettes


:)
 

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Thanks sugar and spice, but I don't want to get to go off track and keep things simple for myself, and not go for a 70W.

I wanted to buy everything from one site but it seems it may not be possible.

For the Istick 40W, I will grab this here:

vaporauthority.com/products/genuine-eleaf-ismoka-istick-tc40w-temp-control-box-mod-kit

For the Aspire Nautilus Tank, I will grab this here:


myvaporstore.com/Aspire-Nautilus-Adjustable-Airflow-Tank-System-p/ap-na-k.htm

Once I buy both, I will insert the Nautilus tank inside the Istick, correct? From there I can adjust the nicotine/GV ratio on the Nautilus tank, I think. Once I get confirmation that this set up will work, I will grab them. Thanks guys.
 

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I have harshness (heat) with wattages over about 18-25w depending on the juice. PG is a little harsher than VG, but PG carries the flavor better. Their is a lot of "balancing" to get individual preference. Vaping is really a big world compared with smoking.

It really isn't the nicotine that is dangerous, it is the myriad of other chemicals that are bad. That includes tar, to my understanding.

Speaking of tobacco flavor; I think many just want to replicate smoking, but tobacco is a very modified ingredient. There are a LOT of other flavors. Good to keep an open mind. Getting away from all those nasty cigarette chemicals is generally the priority for people that switch.

For me, being diabetic, I can't eat sweets or pastries as an evening snack. BUT, I can vape them in the evening. :)

Good luck to you.
 
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Thanks a lot. I'm not a diabetic but a hypoglycemic, which is the opposite of a diabetic, if I understand it correctly. I release too much insulin for even the slightest bit of blood glucose increase, so having the least amount of nicotine is vital. Yes, nicotine spikes blood glucose quite a bit. I don't want those thousands of chemicals and tar, so smoking must be out.

Any flavor is fine, no flavor is fine, air is fine, chalk flavor is fine, so long as I quite smoking... If it taste good, its a minor bonus.

In the meantime if I can get a go ahead sometime soon for those two products I listed, it would be great. As long as they are compatible and won't blow up, I'll get them. Thanks again, guys :)
 
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Once I buy both, I will insert the Nautilus tank inside the Istick, correct? From there I can adjust the nicotine/GV ratio on the Nautilus tank, I think. Once I get confirmation that this set up will work, I will grab them. Thanks guys.

To be specific, the tank sits on top of the Istick. I think your choice of Istick and Nautilus is a good one.

The VG ratio can't be adjusted in the tank, if that's what you meant. When you buy the juice it will generally say on the label what the %'s of VG and PG are, and the amount of nicotine. At that point those ratios are set and can't be changed. Probably best to buy your juice in a shop so you can ask someone and get what you want to get.

It sounds like you need a high level of VG and a low level of nicotine. Look for juice that has 70% or more VG, the rest being PG. And around 6mg or less nicotine. That will get you in the general area where you want to be, if I'm reading your posts right. Nice smooth vape. Once you've tried it you can go for different levels of VG and nic next time if you want. You really need to just try different juices to see what works for you. But that should be a good place to start.

On reflection you probably shouldn't use juice with more than 70% vg in the Nautilus. VG is thicker than PG and it's harder for tanks to handle.

good luck
 

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All great advice being given here @Tjgoa

Once you've got your setup it should be pretty straight forward as to how to use it. We are all here to answer any questions as well!

The highest VG level I have ever had success with inside a Nautilus was around 50% and that was still a bit of a struggle. I can say that I found the Nautilus to be smoother in general than most tanks with similar resistance ratings. I think you will be happy with the Nautilus tank and iStick 40W TC.

When you have your setup I highly recommend hitting up a local vape shop that has a juice sampling setup. This will allow you to find a flavor you like. Just remember when you are sampling juices in store they will usually have them in cheap clearomizers and while the flavor should be close to what you will experience in your setup the overall feel of the vape might not be.
 
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IMO, the OP doesn't even know if he's going to like vaping, let alone even what the parts are that make a set-up, nor how to use them. He isn't knowledgeable about eliquid contents, where it even goes & how, nic mg in eliquid, coils for the tank and different resistances, etc.. However, he's now planning on making a fairly decent sized purchase already? What about the coils he's going to need, too? Oh wait, he doesn't know about even needing them, or what they're for, or where to put them, etc.

I just don't get it at all. From absolute, total newbie to vaping and to everything about vaping...to ready to get an iStick 40W TC and a Nautilus tank. :?:
 
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