Infiniti-Mercedes Partnership Appears Dead in the Water, But Nissan CEO Denies It

Matt Posky
by Matt Posky

After a report appeared claiming that Nissan is scrapping a joint development effort with Mercedes-Benz, the Japanese automaker’s CEO says the two partners haven’t split up.

Japan’s second-largest carmaker and Germany’s oldest made an agreement in 2010 to share engines and platforms for Infiniti and several compact Mercedes-Benz models. A new platform is planned for a cooperative factory in Mexico opening this year, and a decision to back out would throw a wrench into the future of the $1 billion plant

Each company had anticipated making use of the facility to produce smaller vehicles on the jointly-funded MFA2 architecture, minimizing production costs.

In October, Nissan decided that its premium division would not make use of the platform. According to Reuters, Infiniti was not selling enough vehicles to soak up the technology costs.

“It wasn’t possible to close a deal on the basis of MFA2,” said an inside source. “The targets set by Infiniti were too difficult to achieve.”

Daimler and Nissan told Reuters in separate statements that they’ll only pursue joint ventures when it is “beneficial for both sides.” While neither commented directly on the shared platform, both stated that talks remain ongoing. Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn also denied that there was cause for alarm over the partnership.

“The collaboration with Mercedes is going well,” Ghosn told reporters at the Consumer Electronics Show. “Every time that we make a change in the project, doesn’t mean that the project is condemned.”

Regardless, Nissan won’t be using the small-car platform for the future Infiniti Q40 — leaving it solely for the next generation of Mercedes’ compact A-Class. The tribulation could also affect the status of Infiniti’s Q30 and QX30, both of which use Daimler’s M270 engine and ride on the same platform that underpins the GLA and CLA-Class. Nissan will likely face reduced investment in the Sunderland, England factory that produces the Q30, since it makes use of Mercedes-Benz’s tooling amenities there.

Officially, engine sharing between Infiniti and Mercedes — and Renault and Smart — remains on the table. The manufacturers haven’t weighed in on there being any problems collaborating on van or pickup projects. It’s just the small Infiniti joint that looks to be dead in the water, which it isn’t surprising considering their sad place in the market.

U.S. demand for smaller cars is way down and Infiniti has had a hard go of it in general — especially outside the United States. Last year it only managed to sell 16,000 vehicles in Western Europe and 230,000 globally.

[Image: Infiniti]

Matt Posky
Matt Posky

A staunch consumer advocate tracking industry trends and regulation. Before joining TTAC, Matt spent a decade working for marketing and research firms based in NYC. Clients included several of the world’s largest automakers, global tire brands, and aftermarket part suppliers. Dissatisfied with the corporate world and resentful of having to wear suits everyday, he pivoted to writing about cars. Since then, that man has become an ardent supporter of the right-to-repair movement, been interviewed on the auto industry by national radio broadcasts, driven more rental cars than anyone ever should, participated in amateur rallying events, and received the requisite minimum training as sanctioned by the SCCA. Handy with a wrench, Matt grew up surrounded by Detroit auto workers and managed to get a pizza delivery job before he was legally eligible. He later found himself driving box trucks through Manhattan, guaranteeing future sympathy for actual truckers. He continues to conduct research pertaining to the automotive sector as an independent contractor and has since moved back to his native Michigan, closer to where the cars are born. A contrarian, Matt claims to prefer understeer — stating that front and all-wheel drive vehicles cater best to his driving style.

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  • Sector 5 Sector 5 on Jan 07, 2017

    Doesn't Nissan NA stand to get Trumped owing to all it's Mexican production? Then there's Brexit facing Sunderland despite the reassurance.

  • RHD RHD on Jan 08, 2017

    Mercedes: "Infiniti, like always, you want to sell them too cheap!" Infiniti: "Mercedes, like usual, you want to make them too cheap!" But they both agree that manufacturing with low-paid labor in Mexico is the right kind of cheap for both companies.

  • ToolGuy First picture: I realize that opinions vary on the height of modern trucks, but that entry door on the building is 80 inches tall and hits just below the headlights. Does anyone really believe this is reasonable?Second picture: I do not believe that is a good parking spot to be able to access the bed storage. More specifically, how do you plan to unload topsoil with the truck parked like that? Maybe you kids are taller than me.
  • ToolGuy The other day I attempted to check the engine oil in one of my old embarrassing vehicles and I guess the red shop towel I used wasn't genuine Snap-on (lots of counterfeits floating around) plus my driveway isn't completely level and long story short, the engine seized 3 minutes later.No more used cars for me, and nothing but dealer service from here on in (the journalists were right).
  • Doughboy Wow, Merc knocks it out of the park with their naming convention… again. /s
  • Doughboy I’ve seen car bras before, but never car beards. ZZ Top would be proud.
  • Bkojote Allright, actual person who knows trucks here, the article gets it a bit wrong.First off, the Maverick is not at all comparable to a Tacoma just because they're both Hybrids. Or lemme be blunt, the butch-est non-hybrid Maverick Tremor is suitable for 2/10 difficulty trails, a Trailhunter is for about 5/10 or maybe 6/10, just about the upper end of any stock vehicle you're buying from the factory. Aside from a Sasquatch Bronco or Rubicon Jeep Wrangler you're looking at something you're towing back if you want more capability (or perhaps something you /wish/ you were towing back.)Now, where the real world difference should play out is on the trail, where a lot of low speed crawling usually saps efficiency, especially when loaded to the gills. Real world MPG from a 4Runner is about 12-13mpg, So if this loaded-with-overlander-catalog Trailhunter is still pulling in the 20's - or even 18-19, that's a massive improvement.
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