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Donald J. Trump has slowly but surely improved his standing in state and national polls since the final presidential debate.
A New York Times Upshot/Siena poll released Sunday is consistent with that trend: It gives Mr. Trump a four-point lead in Florida, 46 percent to 42 percent, in a four-way race. In our first poll of Florida a month ago, Mr. Trump trailed Hillary Clinton by a percentage point.
The survey is Mr. Trump’s best recent poll in Florida, and it should be interpreted with caution. In general, it is best to look at an average of polls. Mrs. Clinton still leads in an average of recent Florida surveys by nearly three points.
But the poll is not the only one to show Mr. Trump in the lead. A Bloomberg/Selzer poll, which is methodologically similar to the New York Times Upshot/Siena poll, showed Mr. Trump with a two-point edge last week.
Mr. Trump, a Republican, has no plausible path to the presidency without Florida’s 29 electoral votes. But his Democratic opponent has many ways to win without the state. Mrs. Clinton would almost certainly win if she carried North Carolina and Pennsylvania, where recent Upshot/Siena polls have shown her with a comfortable advantage.
The poll was taken before the F.B.I. director, James Comey, informed Congress that the bureau had obtained additional information of potential relevance to an investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s emails. National polls ahead of Mr. Comey’s letter showed Mrs. Clinton with a six-point lead, an edge that was somewhat smaller than it was earlier in the month.
Where this poll fits in with other polls of Florida voters
Dates | Type, Respondents | Clinton | Trump | Johnson | Margin | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
NYT Upshot/Siena New | 10/25 - 10/27 | Live Phone 792 Likely Voters |
42 | 46 | 4 | Trump +4 |
Dates | Type, Respondents | Clinton | Trump | Johnson | Margin | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Saint Leo University New | 10/22 - 10/26 | Online 1028 Likely Voters |
49 | 35 | 4 | Clinton +14 |
Bloomberg/Selzer New | 10/21 - 10/24 | Live Phone 953 Likely Voters |
43 | 45 | 4 | Trump +2 |
SurveyMonkey New | 10/18 - 10/26 | Online 1600 Likely Voters |
47 | 44 | 5 | Clinton +3 |
SurveyUSA New | 10/20 - 10/24 | I.V.R./Online 1251 Likely Voters |
48 | 45 | 2 | Clinton +3 |
UNF New | 10/20 - 10/25 | Live Phone 819 Likely Voters |
43 | 39 | 6 | Clinton +4 |
Remington Research Group/Axiom Strategies New | 10/20 - 10/22 | I.V.R./Live Phone 1600 Likely Voters |
46 | 46 | 2 | Even |
CBS/YouGov New | 10/20 - 10/21 | Online 1042 Likely Voters |
46 | 43 | 3 | Clinton +3 |
Opinion Savvy New | 10/20 | I.V.R./Online 538 Likely Voters |
49 | 45 | 3 | Clinton +4 |
UPI/CVOTER New | 10/16 - 10/23 | Online 399 Likely Voters |
49 | 47 | — | Clinton +2 |
Lucid/The Times-Picayune New | 10/17 - 10/18 | Online 892 Likely Voters |
45 | 39 | 6 | Clinton +6 |
Quinnipiac New | 10/10 - 10/16 | Live Phone 660 Likely Voters |
48 | 44 | 4 | Clinton +4 |
Gravis Marketing New | 10/11 - 10/13 | I.V.R./Online 1600 Registered Voters |
46 | 42 | 2 | Clinton +4 |
PPP New | 10/12 - 10/13 | I.V.R./Online 985 Likely Voters |
46 | 42 | 5 | Clinton +4 |
WashPost/SurveyMonkey New | 10/8 - 10/16 | Online 1600 Likely Voters |
43 | 45 | 7 | Trump +2 |
Ipsos/Reuters New | 9/30 - 10/20 | Online 879 Likely Voters |
48 | 44 | — | Clinton +4 |
Opinion Savvy New | 10/10 - 10/11 | I.V.R./Online 533 Likely Voters |
47 | 44 | 5 | Clinton +3 |
Ipsos/Reuters New | 10/5 - 10/12 | Online 1532 Likely Voters |
42 | 38 | 6 | Clinton +4 |
Florida Atlantic University New | 10/5 - 10/9 | I.V.R./Online 500 Likely Voters |
49 | 43 | 1 | Clinton +6 |
Marist New | 10/3 - 10/5 | Live Phone 700 Likely Voters |
45 | 42 | 5 | Clinton +3 |
Emerson College New | 10/2 - 10/4 | I.V.R. 600 Likely Voters |
44 | 45 | 4 | Trump +1 |
UNF New | 9/27 - 10/4 | Live Phone 686 Likely Voters |
41 | 38 | 6 | Clinton +3 |
Quinnipiac New | 9/27 - 10/2 | Live Phone 545 Likely Voters |
46 | 41 | 5 | Clinton +5 |
Mason-Dixon New | 9/27 - 9/29 | Live Phone 820 Likely Voters |
46 | 42 | 7 | Clinton +4 |
Opinion Savvy New | 9/28 - 9/29 | I.V.R./Online 619 Likely Voters |
47 | 46 | 4 | Clinton +1 |
PPP New | 9/27 - 9/28 | I.V.R./Online 826 Likely Voters |
45 | 43 | 3 | Clinton +2 |
Ipsos/Reuters New | 9/16 - 10/6 | Online 1360 Likely Voters |
49 | 44 | — | Clinton +5 |
Suffolk New | 9/19 - 9/21 | Live Phone 500 Likely Voters |
44 | 45 | 3 | Trump +1 |
Cherry New | 9/15 - 9/20 | Live Phone 617 Likely Voters |
43 | 41 | 8 | Clinton +2 |
Monmouth University New | 9/16 - 9/19 | Live Phone 400 Likely Voters |
46 | 41 | 6 | Clinton +5 |
Saint Leo University New | 9/10 - 9/16 | Online 475 Likely Voters |
49 | 44 | 6 | Clinton +5 |
NYT Upshot/Siena New | 9/10 - 9/14 | Live Phone 867 Likely Voters |
41 | 40 | 9 | Clinton +1 |
CNN New | 9/7 - 9/12 | Live Phone 788 Likely Voters |
44 | 47 | 6 | Trump +3 |
CBS/YouGov New | 9/7 - 9/9 | Online 1193 Likely Voters |
44 | 42 | 5 | Clinton +2 |
Ipsos/Reuters New | 8/26 - 9/15 | Online 1065 Likely Voters |
46 | 50 | — | Trump +4 |
PPP New | 9/4 - 9/6 | I.V.R./Online 744 Likely Voters |
43 | 44 | 5 | Trump +1 |
Quinnipiac New | 8/29 - 9/7 | Live Phone 761 Likely Voters |
43 | 43 | 8 | Even |
Morning Consult New | 8/9 - 9/8 | Online 1487 Likely Voters |
38 | 38 | 7 | Even |
ICITIZEN New | 8/18 - 8/24 | Online 600 Registered Voters |
42 | 37 | 8 | Clinton +5 |
Washington Post/SurveyMonkey New | 8/9 - 9/1 | Online 1600 Registered Voters |
42 | 40 | 10 | Clinton +2 |
WashPost/SurveyMonkey New | 8/9 - 9/1 | Online 1600 Registered Voters |
42 | 40 | 10 | Clinton +2 |
Cherry New | 8/17 - 8/22 | Live Phone 608 Likely Voters |
41 | 44 | 9 | Trump +3 |
Saint Leo University New | 8/14 - 8/18 | Online 1380 Likely Voters |
52 | 38 | 8 | Clinton +14 |
Monmouth University New | 8/12 - 8/15 | Live Phone 402 Likely Voters |
48 | 39 | 6 | Clinton +9 |
CBS/YouGov New | 8/10 - 8/12 | Online 1194 Likely Voters |
45 | 40 | 5 | Clinton +5 |
Opinion Savvy New | 8/10 | I.V.R./Online 622 Likely Voters |
45 | 44 | 6 | Clinton +1 |
Marist New | 8/4 - 8/10 | Live Phone 862 Registered Voters |
41 | 36 | 9 | Clinton +5 |
Quinnipiac New | 7/30 - 8/7 | Live Phone 1056 Likely Voters |
43 | 43 | 7 | Even |
Suffolk New | 8/1 - 8/3 | Live Phone 500 Likely Voters |
43 | 39 | 4 | Clinton +4 |
Morning Consult New | 6/27 - 7/27 | Online 996 Likely Voters |
42 | 41 | — | Clinton +1 |
JMC Analytics New | 7/9 - 7/10 | I.V.R. 700 Likely Voters |
42 | 47 | 2 | Trump +5 |
GQR New | 7/6 - 7/10 | Live Phone 1100 Likely Voters |
45 | 40 | 6 | Clinton +5 |
Marist New | 7/5 - 7/11 | Live Phone 871 Registered Voters |
41 | 36 | 7 | Clinton +5 |
Quinnipiac New | 6/30 - 7/11 | Live Phone 1015 Registered Voters |
36 | 41 | 7 | Trump +5 |
Gravis Marketing New | 6/27 - 6/28 | I.V.R. 1600 Registered Voters |
45 | 49 | — | Trump +4 |
Onmessage New | 6/26 - 6/28 | Live Phone 800 Likely Voters |
45 | 47 | — | Trump +2 |
SurveyUSA New | 6/25 - 6/27 | I.V.R./Online 1600 Likely Voters |
46 | 42 | 2 | Clinton +4 |
CBS/YouGov New | 6/21 - 6/24 | Online 1192 Likely Voters |
44 | 41 | — | Clinton +3 |
GQR New | 6/11 - 6/20 | Live Phone 300 Likely Voters |
49 | 38 | 9 | Clinton +11 |
Quinnipiac New | 6/8 - 6/19 | Live Phone 975 Registered Voters |
42 | 36 | 7 | Clinton +6 |
PPP New | 6/2 - 6/5 | I.V.R./Online 737 Likely Voters |
40 | 41 | 4 | Trump +1 |
Mason-Dixon New | 5/31 - 6/2 | Live Phone 625 Registered Voters |
45 | 42 | 6 | Clinton +3 |
Morning Consult New | 4/16 - 7/15 | Online 1600 Likely Voters |
44 | 40 | — | Clinton +4 |
CBS/YouGov New | 5/16 - 5/19 | Online 995 Likely Voters |
43 | 42 | — | Clinton +1 |
Gravis Marketing New | 5/17 - 5/18 | I.V.R. 1600 Registered Voters |
46 | 42 | — | Clinton +4 |
Quinnipiac New | 4/27 - 5/8 | Live Phone 1051 Registered Voters |
43 | 42 | — | Clinton +1 |
Associated Industries of Florida New | 4/25 - 4/27 | Live Phone 604 Likely Voters |
49 | 36 | — | Clinton +13 |
Morning Consult New | 1/29 - 6/27 | Online 303 Likely Voters |
39 | 45 | 8 | Trump +6 |
The poll paints a much rosier picture for Mr. Trump. Across every dimension of the survey, the poll has subtle but good news for his chances. If Mr. Trump won the election, it probably would look a lot like this:
Far greater Republican unity
Mr. Trump won 86 percent of self-identified Republicans — the highest percentage of that group in any Upshot/Siena survey so far this year.
He had the support of 84 percent of registered Republicans, up from 72 percent in September and also the highest of any Upshot/Siena survey this year.
Mr. Trump’s consolidation of Republican-leaning voters is a trend in national surveys, and it comes alongside a corresponding decline in the number of supporters for Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate, who received just 4 percent of the vote in our survey — the lowest of any Upshot/Siena poll. Republicans have been likelier than Democrats to support Mr. Johnson in most of our polls.
Even college-educated white voters, who have been skeptical of Mr. Trump nationwide, are showing less skepticism in Florida. He has a lead of 51 percent to 35 percent among those voters in our survey.
Clinton weakness among white working-class Democrats
Mr. Trump leads among white voters without a college degree by an impressive margin of 63 percent to 24 percent. He’s so strong that Mrs. Clinton has just 55 percent of the vote among white registered Democrats without a degree, compared with Mr. Trump’s 32 percent.
The combination of Republican unity and a large dissenting vote among registered Democrats is responsible for Mr. Trump’s lead.
Mrs. Clinton actually leads among voters who are unaffiliated with a major party — something that’s been true in all five Upshot surveys: in North Carolina (two surveys), Florida (two) and Pennsylvania (one). In this case, it’s by a 10-point margin.
Our survey is adjusted to have the right number of registered Democrats and Republicans, which is generally a good way to make sure that a sample doesn’t wind up being too Democratic or Republican. Democrats have a one-point registration edge among likely voters.
But because of this large dissenting vote from white working-class registered Democrats, and the unity of registered Republicans, the Republicans have a two-point advantage in voters’ party identification in survey responses.
A Clinton challenge with black voters?
Mrs. Clinton has had nearly unanimous support among black voters in Upshot/Siena surveys, but not in this one: She had a lead of 81 percent to 11 percent. It might not seem like a big deal, but the difference between that support and the 90-1 we saw from black voters in Pennsylvania covers about half of Mr. Trump’s lead.
White voters
Clinton
29%
Trump
58%
Mrs. Clinton is competitive among white voters in southeast Florida.
Black voters
Clinton
81%
Trump
11%
Black voters were more supportive of Mr. Trump than in past surveys.
Hispanic voters
Clinton
59%
Trump
30%
Republicans tend to do better among Cuban voters in South Florida.
One possibility is that this is random sampling error — we’re talking about seven black respondents who support Mr. Trump in our survey. But there are at least hints that Mr. Trump may be a tad stronger among black voters in Florida than elsewhere. Our first Upshot/Siena poll of Florida in September gave Mrs. Clinton a lead of 83 percent to 4 percent among black voters, which was her worst performance among black voters in any of The Upshot’s polls up until now. A recent Selzer poll of Florida also gave Mrs. Clinton a similar lead of 80 percent to 10 percent among black voters.
Mrs. Clinton also had a challenge with black turnout. Voters who indicated on their voter registration form that they were black made up 12.7 percent of the likely electorate, down from 13.9 percent in 2012. Our North Carolina survey also showed the black share of the electorate dipping by about one point lower than 2012 levels. It’s a pattern that’s consistent with the initial early voting data, which shows lower black turnout than in 2012.
Cubans return to Trump
Mrs. Clinton leads among Hispanic voters by a wide margin of 59 percent to 30 percent in our survey — a tally that’s pretty comparable to most recent Florida polls. But it is better for Mr. Trump than our September survey, when Mrs. Clinton led by a margin of 61 percent to 21 percent.
Here, it is Cuban-American voters who make the difference. In September, Mrs. Clinton had a lead of 41 percent to 33 percent among Cuban voters, with a huge number undecided or supporting a minor-party candidate. Now Mr. Trump leads, 52 percent vs. 42 percent.
Again, these are very small samples. But it’s plausible to imagine Mr. Trump recovering among Cuban voters.
A strong showing among Cuban voters also helped Senator Marco Rubio lead by nine points, 51 percent to 42 percent, against his Democratic challenger, Patrick Murphy. Mr. Murphy led by just two percentage points among Hispanic voters, and Mr. Rubio led by 69-28 among Cuban voters.
Marco Rubio leads in his Senate race with Patrick Murphy, with a bigger edge than Mr. Trump's.
A mystery factor: partisan nonresponse
One of the biggest questions in political survey research is partisan nonresponse — the possibility that Democrats or Republicans are more or less likely to respond to polls.
Most public polls don’t have many ways to deal with it. They weight their surveys to match the demographic composition of adults — say, the right number of white and black voters — but they don’t adjust the number of Democrats or Republicans.
Our surveys are different: As mentioned earlier, they’re adjusted to have the right number of Democrats or Republicans.
In our survey, registered Democrats were much likelier to respond than Republicans. Registered Democrats had an eight-point registration advantage in our unweighted sample, even though it was representative by other measures.
Mrs. Clinton would have actually led in The Upshot’s survey if it, like most others, didn’t weight by party registration.
One possibility is that the public polls are understating Mr. Trump’s support because registered Republicans aren’t answering the telephone.
I would love to write that this was the only poll capturing the “hidden” Trump vote. And I would note that the Selzer/Bloomberg poll of Florida also happens to be weighted by party registration.
But based on my reporting, this is probably not what’s going on. Private pollsters are conducting surveys using similar methods, and they’re not seeing this. And after all, our poll found that registered Republicans were extremely likely to indicate their support for Mr. Trump — not exactly the shy Trump voter.
So let me conclude with a puzzle that highlights just how hard survey research can be.
Suppose, for the moment, that Republicans dissatisfied with Mr. Trump were less likely to respond to our survey, either by chance or because they were demoralized.
You would end up with a survey with too few Republicans, but those that you did have would be likely to support Mr. Trump.
It might not be so easy to adjust for partisan nonresponse.
If you then adjusted your survey to include the right number of registered Republicans, you would wind up with a sample full of Republicans who full-throatedly supported Mr. Trump — even though the reason you had too few Republicans was because so many don’t support him.
Is this what’s going on here? Who knows. The point is that any time there’s an adjustment for nonresponse, a pollster is making an assumption that the people being up-weighted are representative of the people who didn’t respond. That’s just an assumption, and it’s not always right.
We’ll find out for sure in nine very long days.
The New York Times Upshot/Siena College poll of 814 likely voters in Florida was conducted from Oct. 25 to 27 on landline and cellular telephones with live interviewers.
The sample was selected from an L2 voter file of active Florida voters stratified by age, gender, party registration, county, race and a modeled turnout score. The probability that a voter was selected for the sample was in inverse proportion to the number of voters with a telephone number in each strata and the anticipated response rate for each voter, based on a model of response in prior surveys and tests.
Interviews were conducted on both landline and cellphones and in English and Spanish. Over all, 45 percent of interviews were completed on cellphones. Interviewers asked for the person listed on the voter file; no interviews were attempted with other individuals available at the number.
The sample was balanced to match the demographic and political characteristics of active registered voters in the L2 voter file by age, race, gender, party registration, region and a modeled turnout score. The voter file data on respondents, not the self-reported information provided by respondents, was used for weighting.
Likely voters were determined by averaging a self-reported likely-voter screen and a modeled turnout score.
• Self-reported likely voters were those who indicated that they were "almost certain" or "very likely" to vote, or rated their chance of voting as a "9" or "10" on a scale from 1 to 10.
• The turnout score was based on a model of turnout in the 2012 presidential election. The probabilities were applied to 2016.
The probability that a registered voter would turn out was based on the average of whether they were a self-reported voter and their modeled turnout score, except for people who self-reported that they had already voted. They were given a 100 percent chance of voting.
Category | Active Voters (L2) | Unweighted Reg. Voters | Weighted Reg. Voters | Likely Voters |
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White | 65 | 65 | 65 | 67 |
Black | 13 | 12 | 13 | 13 |
Hispanic | 15 | 17 | 15 | 14 |
Other | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 |
Male | 46 | 47 | 46 | 46 |
Female | 54 | 53 | 54 | 54 |
18-29 | 16 | 14 | 16 | 13 |
30-44 | 20 | 18 | 20 | 19 |
45-64 | 35 | 37 | 35 | 37 |
65+ | 29 | 31 | 29 | 31 |
Democrat | 38 | 41 | 38 | 39 |
Republican | 36 | 34 | 36 | 38 |
Other | 26 | 25 | 26 | 23 |
Turnout <50 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 15 |
Turnout 50-85 | 27 | 25 | 27 | 26 |
Turnout >85 | 51 | 52 | 51 | 59 |
Southeast | 27 | 31 | 27 | 27 |
Bay Area | 21 | 20 | 21 | 20 |
Central | 24 | 24 | 24 | 25 |
North | 20 | 17 | 20 | 19 |
Southwest | 8 | 8 | 8 | 9 |
Democratic ID | n.a. | 34 | 32 | 32 |
Republican ID | n.a. | 30 | 31 | 34 |
Independent ID | n.a. | 30 | 31 | 28 |
Clinton (4-way) | n.a. | 44 | 42 | 42 |
Trump (4-way) | n.a. | 42 | 44 | 46 |
Clinton (2-way) | n.a. | 47 | 45 | 45 |
Trump (2-way) | n.a. | 44 | 45 | 48 |
White, non-Hispanic | n.a. | 62 | 62 | 64 |
Black, non-Hispanic | n.a. | 10 | 12 | 11 |
Hispanic | n.a. | 19 | 18 | 16 |