lol people just don't get it..

It's good for gamers, moderate for Sony, and moderate for capcom. Exclusive games score higher in general, so how is it bad for gamers? Oh.. is it because you don't have a PS4 or PC? Well too bad you gotta pay money to have fun in this hobby.

Moderate for Sony, because they had to pay some sort of money for the rights but in the end it will increase their install base.

Moderate for Capcom, because they only need to focus on two versions to make a really good game. However it will not sell as well as SFIV.

"Everyone’s a winner. Except anyone who bought an Xbox One. Just like Microsoft’s acquisition of Tomb Raider’s timed-exclusivity, this is bad for gamers."

I have a Xbox One, and I'm ecstatic after the announcement. I'm aslo happy that Tomb Raider is atleast timed exclusive. We need more console differentiation!

@havesomenuts that's not saying much. There weren't a lot of great games last year

I would rather play Tomb Raider than street fighter

According to Wikipedia

Street Fighter IV sold 3.3 Million
Super Street Figher IV sold 1.9M
1.1M for Arcade edition
Super Street Figher IV: 3D Edition sold 1.2M
Ultra Street Fighter IV sold 500K

That adds up to 8 Million in total over 5 versions

Tomb Raider 2013 has sold 6.5 Million copies - 1Million in 48Hrs
Not counting the recently released Definitive Edition

I'm not sure how you conclude MS forced Sony to do this. Securing 3rd party exclusives has been a part of the industry for a while. Sony has done it before (GTA, MGS), as has Nintendo. Usually, its just timed exclusive, like tomb raider is. Console exclusives are usually only with new franchises (no mans sky, titan fall, ME1, etc)

But rarely do you see a long time multiplat go console exclusive. This is the biggest deal I remember since Resident evil went with Nintendo with RE4.

Also, Ono has been doing hints about this since before the TR deal, so it has nothing to do with Microsoft

I love how people have this excuse of Sony was forced to do it.

Sony, Nintendo and every other company has secured exclusive IP's in the past, way before MS ever did.

Sony was not forced to do anything because of MS. Sony did it to secure one of the most popular fighting franchise for their system, they did it out of business and to make their system more attractive to the fighting community.

Im looking for this same sites article about the tomb raider deal snd how its bad for gamers. Can somebody kindly provide a link.........thanks

@ maniac....i agree with you that its business but business IS reacting and preempting your competitors and their practices. I'm not getting into the who done what first. I'm just saying sony has to be more aggresive when tackling a worthy foe.

I'm not a fan of those complaining now that were fine when the shoe was on the other foot. Goes both ways. Fight fire with fire

@ TheBrit: That's cool. I'll be playing both on PS4 if Rise of the Tomb Raider doesn't suck this time.

WHAT! Street Fighter bigger than Tomb Raider? Are you flocking high?! Maybe in the arcade during the 90's but now not so much.

The key term there is "Street Fighter 5" There might be room in the deal for super/ultra/mega/ultimate which will inevitably come.

a very small market share of gamers have X1 only, so few will miss out on SF5

This game (SFV) is console exclusive but Im betting the other variants wont be. Capcom has done this only 2 other times and that was with the SNES version of the original SF2 and the dreamcast versions of SF3 and 2nd impact.

Every other iteration of the SF games has graced a multitude of systems. Including the CD32, 3DO, PCEngine, and the various sega, nintendo and sony/MS systems.

Surprisingly...there was never a jaguar version but..oh well.

Bottom line is that capcom has a habit of releasing variations of their games within a short time after the initial release. And those variations are generally more well received as they include all sorts of updates and added content.

So 6-8 months after the PS4 gets this game...chances are the other systems will get a super or ultra version all the same.

@mhunterjr

"I'm not sure how you conclude MS forced Sony to do this."

You're not? Proof is in the pudding:

Ryse.
Dead Rising.
Titanfall.
Sunset Overdrive.
Tomb Raider.

Those are some big, AAA, 3rd party titles. Most of those in just the first year. I could argue Gears of War should be added to that list. MS bought the rights just to keep it from going multiplat. That's not going to put pressure on Sony to make deals like this?

@ Docknoss: Wake me up when they start holding tournaments for Tomb Raider.

Sony did this with Tomb Raider back in 1997, before the Xbox brand even existed. Get over yourself with your accusations that Microsoft "forced" Sony into doing this. Both companies see this as a legitimate deal/strategy.

It's getting pretty sickening to see you fanboys attack a company for doing something then make excuses when the company you like does the same thing. Especially here when Sony did it long before Xbox was even a thing.

I'm thinking, what would the point be of multiple console's if they all have the same games?

I think it makes for better competition when console manufacturers compete for exclusivity. I also think that generally exclusive games are better in quality/polish compared to multi-patform games.

I know it sounds harsh, but I think it's better for the games industry when console's can differentiate from each other. Yeah, it sucks for gamers that only have 1 console, but on the other hand it's awesome for gamers that have all console's.

Personally I am fine with Sony and Microsoft competing with each other for gamers's attention through investments, like exclusivity deals, first and second party studio's & IP's etc.

Yeah, this sucks for X1 fans now. But I am sure down the line we'll see an announcement that will sting PS4 fans.

Good for Sony.

Safe for Capcom.

Bad for the 4 Xbox gamers that play fighting games.

You know what could have been even worse for gamers? The game not coming out for some years or at all.

Sony is helping fund the game's development because, as Yoshinori Ono said last year, they didn't have the budget for a brand new Street Fighter game.
At least the game exists now.

Same with Bayonetta 2.

How is it a much bigger IP? It has a deeper game heritage but I doubt it is a bigger money maker.

@LeCreuset

Ryse- published by MS, wouldn't have existed otherwise
Dead Rising- published by MS, wouldn't have existed otherwise
Titanfall - New franchise, by and indie dev (just like No Mans Sky)
Sunset Overdrive- published by MS
Tomb Raider- just a timed exclusive, ps4 owners will still be able to play it

Nothing you've mentioned remotely compares to what Sony has done with this deal... it's SFV is the ONLY game mentioned that had a sizeable fan base

@mhunterjr

What are you talking about?

"Ryse- published by MS, wouldn't have existed otherwise"

"Dead Rising- published by MS, wouldn't have existed otherwise "

The same applies to Sony and SF:V.

"Titanfall - New franchise, by and indie dev (just like No Mans Sky"

Really, man? So now you're going to try to paint Titanfall as an indie comparable to No Man's Sky? The poor little indie dev that only has the biggest game publisher publishing their AAA retail game? Come on.

"Tomb Raider- just a timed exclusive, ps4 owners will still be able to play it "

Yeah. That's probably why you don't want to go pulling moves like that when you have the significantly smaller install base AND more supporters of the franchise game on the other console.

What ms forced Sony to do? You do understand that sony has bought exclusive games for YEARS. The only reason its become rare for sony is because they are nearly broke.

Bloodborn anyone? That's exclusive because Sony cut a check, that was exclusive before tomb raider. So make up another excuse please.

How bout its just the way the industry works. I welcome exclusive titles. When you work on a single console you have more time, spend less of your budget on porting and can optimize much better.

The solution for gamers is the same as its been since the SNES/genesis days. Buy both.

@enemy
It's definitely much funnier to see what Sony has forced Microsoft to do...you know, like drop Kinect, cut price drastically while giving away multiple free games, drop the xbox live gold paywall, offer a free games service due to psplus kicking arse left and right, buy a timed exclusive like Tomb Raider because even Phil Spencer acknowledges he wished Microsoft had a studio like ND to produce their own Uncharted....shall I go on son? No, no, you've had enough. Sit down, you're done here.

And to others who think this deal and those like it will lead to an ever increasing rate of third party exclusivity deals, it's more and more unlikely the more ps4's and xbone's are sold because the lost sales due to restricting content to just one platform would be too damaging. The amount of money Sony and Microsoft would have to shell out at some point becomes a zero sum game, with the companies suffering diminishing returns on such investments. Now it's different if the companies want to help fund development, but to just pay outright, it's not going to keep happening.

id rather have capcom survive, than not. this helps them stay in the game. this is good for gamers. capcom tanking is bad for gamers and the industry as a whole. look at Ubi struggling... bad for gamers bc look at the crap theyve been putting out. another dev falling victim to debt like capcom would be bad for gamers. this is just one game, and i bet u a million bucks it isnt going to be s*** like Ubi games, so this is good for gamers. you have to buy a ps4 to play this game bc w/o sony this game wouldnt exist or be complete crap like ubi's games. this is good for gamers. please Stfu now, thanks.

"hasn't been good in a long time"

2013 wasn't that long ago

aibreeze

You make it sound like xbox is in the same position as playstation this gen, when in fact the larger install base of ps4 really makes it hard for devs to sign any full xb1 exclusivity. MS isnt going to want phil to throw money at its problems if they cant sustain success on its own.

"No, the deal is bad for ALL gamers. Microsoft will most likely respond with a third party exclusive of their own and Sony fans will be left out again, then Sony do another one and then Microsoft"

^^This. It might be cool to rub it in now. But it just sends the message to MS that they should go after a bigger 3rd party exclusive. The winner of THAT particular proxy war will be the company with the deepest pockets. No prizes for guessing which company has deepest pockets. I could see MS going after battlefront for the west and even shenmue III, to give them something to combat SF5 in japan.

This is the beginning of what will be a very brutal third party exclusives war. Yes MS started. But who has the pockets to finish it?

I will own an XB1 by Xmas (I have a PS4), so Tombraider exclusivity wont bother me, as I will have one anyway. And SF5, I'll be getting for my PS4. Clearly the best approach is to own both. And I accept that. I can see where all this buying of exclusives is going so, Im safe in that I wont miss anything, by having both. But I will say MS is probably in better position to do more damage to sony in this particular area. Its all about money.And there are lots of big third party devs working on BIG things...

I think alot of you forget Mortal Kombat. No one will jump to another console just for street fighter. Its a great game. But there is another great fighting franchise just around the corner.

@Lev1903 - It's not just Street Fighter. PS4 has Street Fighter IV and V, Injustice, and Guilty Gear Xrd exclusively on their system. Plus it has the others like MKX and Tekken 7(assuming it doesn't go PS only again). It's where fighting fans are going to go. It doesn't mean they won't also want an Xbox for Killer Instinct but that's the only fighting game it has that isn't on other consoles.

@Lev1903

Street Fighter is the game that started it all. It's mechanics are simple yet the strategy involved with the use of each character is extremely complex. It is above and beyond still the best fighting game ever made and nothing else even comes close.

If mortal kombat had gone exclusive it would have been a much bigger deal, street fighter might have been king in the 90s but it has lost a lot of ground. Most people will have a pc capable of playing this as it's not going to be a technically cutting edge game. Kind of surprised its releasing on pc also tbh considering the amount of Sony funding.

Street Fighter 5 should be better than killer instinct, but mortal kombat feels like it's going to come out top. If streetfighter 5 somehow betters mortal kombat that would be a hell of an achievement.

Vgchartz are not super accurate, but close enough to make a point.

SF4(vanilla version)- 6.81 million, with over 25% more sales favoring PS3.
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

MK9-4.48 million, with around 600k sales in favor of PS3
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

TR(Vanilla)-4.06 million over 500k in favor of PS3
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

To all the arguments made, clearly they all sold better on PS3. Stating MK is more popular is false. Saying TR is more popular is false. Again it IS vgchartz, but were talking over a 2 million difference. I didnt even count the remakes of SF4. Trying to downplay this is just desperation. At least this makes since business wise. TR:DE sold 100% more on PS4 then X1. I see both as business. Honestly, to you Xbox fanboys, how long was Sony supposed to take it on the chin, before they had to adapt.