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Keeping you on the pulse of what’s happening inside the EMS community. Catch up with Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson weekly as they discuss EMS life through good-natured banter and expert perspectives. Their vehicle for delivering the news and know how is that of two medics sitting on the truck between calls. Their mission is to make all listeners, EMS insiders.
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‘We are patient advocates’: When ‘backing the blue’ puts EMS in a difficult position
Inside EMS cohosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson delve into a legal case out of New Jersey in this week’s episode, in which law enforcement officers and EMS providers were recently charged with the in-custody, in-ambulance death of a patient under the influence of bath salts.
The discussion also discusses a similar incident out of Colorado in which two paramedics and a police officer were convicted in the 2019 death of Elijah McClain after he was injected with ketamine.
Chris and Kelly share vulnerable moments from their careers when they regret not advocating for their patient in the face of law enforcement actions, plus we dig into all this:
The growing legal scrutiny of EMS practices
How to use de-escalation techniques to mitigate contentious situations with law enforcement partners
The ethical responsibilities of EMS providers
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Leadership styles: Progressive discipline vs. coaching culture
“Sometimes we made decisions and wound up getting corrective action where maybe a culture of coaching would have taught me to grow.”
Kelly Grayson puts the spotlight on fellow cohost Chris Cebollero this week as the pair discuss whether progressive discipline still has a place in EMS or if a move to a culture of coaching, as written about extensively by Chris, would have a more positive impact on retention rates, turnover, burnout and overall career satisfaction.
Top quotes
“Experience comes from mistakes and mistakes come from lack of experience.” – Chris Cebollero
"I've gotten enough progressive discipline, enough paper that I can wallpaper a small closet." – Chris Cebollero
“This isn’t about me wanting to fire you. This is about me wanting to make you the very best that you can be.” – Chris Cebollero
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‘A series of unfortunate events’: The danger of bias cascade in EMS
“Sometimes we make a decision, and it snowballs.” Our cohosts get vulnerable on this episode of the Inside EMS podcast, sharing times in their career when they suffered from cascade bias – using incorrect supplied or assumed information, which led to mistakes that compounded to the detriment of the patient. Have you experienced this in your career?
Plus, we dig into all this:
How to enhance your decision-making skills during times of uncertainty
Which U.S. Air Force acronym can help with bias reassessment
How experience can work against providers when it comes to bias
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‘Sell the sizzle, not the steak’: How to engage and captivate EMS audiences
This week our cohosts are talking about everyone’s favorite activity: public speaking. While you may not love talking to a crowd, knowing how to effectively deliver a presentation is not just for leaders. Providers at all levels should know how to communicate on a complex topic to a group of people. And who knows more about expounding on complex EMS topics than Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson?
The pair highlight their extensive experience as educators and industry speakers, discussing:
The key components of effective public speaking
How to make presentations more dynamic
Why you should be intimately familiar with your material
Tips and tricks for new public speakers
This episode of the Inside EMS Podcast is sponsored by LogRx. Learn a better way to track your narcotics at LogRx.com. -
‘We have to battle hard’: EMS pain points and what it will take to fix them
In this week’s episode of the Inside EMS podcast, host Chris Cebollero and guest host Rob Lawrence delve into the dynamics of EMS leadership, legislative challenges and the pursuit of better reimbursement practices for EMS services. The conversation also digs into EMS on the Hill Day and how providers can impact legislation through advocacy.
Memorable quotes
"We say, 'When is someone going to do something?' And really, the charge is, 'When is everyone going to step up and do something?'" — Chris Cebollero
"We have to battle hard to increase our reimbursement, which therefore equates to income, which therefore equates to wages. It's not a case about we all want to go home in a Rolls-Royce.” — Rob Lawrence
"To get things done in EMS, we actually have to be good at convincing our locally elected officials." — Rob Lawrence
"The power of the folk out there, when they put their uniform on, when they get in front of these elected officials, is absolute." — Rob Lawrence
This episode of the Inside EMS Podcast is sponsored by LogRx. Learn a better way to track your narcotics at LogRx.com. -
Credibility code: Building trust beyond the call
Chris Cebollero is flying solo on this episode of Inside EMS as he details the impact of authenticity and integrity in EMS. Through anecdotes and insights, he illustrates how credibility influences leadership effectiveness, team trust and the reputation of the EMS profession.
Memorable quotes
“EMS is a very egotistical business; it’s the egotism that keeps us from asking ‘why?’”
“Experiences come from mistakes and mistakes come from a lack of experience.”
“Never allow your emotions to dictate your actions.”
About the sponsor
This episode of the Inside EMS Podcast is sponsored by LogRx. Learn a better way to track your narcotics at LogRx.com.
Customer Reviews
Please, I’m begging you, equalize the volume
Decent content but they don't equalize the volume between different segments so it’ll blow out your speakers. Yet another case of Big Ambulance trying to ensure a steady stream of patients, who will stop these villains?
Interesting conversations, until derailed by politics
Really enjoy the conversations and the topics but consistently the topics get derailed into political issues. That part is disappointing. Really wish they would keep it within the scope of EMS. I’ve listened to three episodes now that went on 5-15 min tangents on gun control without direct relevance to EMS at all.
Old Dog New Tricks
35 years of EMS EMT-A/B/I/D/CC/P, instructor, District Training Coordinator/Helicopter Medic. I just found this podcast and have been binge listening to it. I crack a smile every time Kelly has to either talk Chris off the cliff or just push him off. I also worked as a dispatcher for NC Statewide Transportation Operations Center so very glad to see them talk about Transportation Information Management (TIMs) Great show everyone can pull so many ideas from this show and EMS Shop. They highlight what everyone is doing around the world..I only do enough to keep my certifications now because I need money so I now am a Biomedical Technician but try to help everyone involved in EMS as I became disabled in the field on the job of EMS.